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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well I'm sorry but it is. Maybe you should actually read about how the country was formed and how that didn't change fundamentally even if liberals say it did after the AOC? Just a suggestion.
    It's actually not at all. The fact that you believe it is makes me regret that I thought we could debate seriously.

    The UN is an international organization. The US is a federal constitutional republic. There's a huge difference. One that I really shouldn't have to articulate for you.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'm sorry, but this is 100% incorrect. New York, Virginia, New Jersey, North Carolina, were not seperate nations before 1787.
    Treaty of Paris (1783) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Acknowledging the United States to be free, sovereign and independent states, and that the British Crown and all heirs and successors relinquish claims to the Government, propriety, and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof;
    The actual text of the treaty:
    His Brittanic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz., New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and Independent States
    Last edited by Centinel; 11-15-11 at 10:32 PM.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    It's not in the constitution.
    Exactly. The Constitution is what we follow. If you're operating by something other than the Constitution, you're argument holds no water. And again, the United States is not like the United Nations at all. The United States is a nation. The United Nations is an organization of nations.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's actually not at all. The fact that you believe it is makes me regret that I thought we could debate seriously.

    The UN is an international organization. The US is a federal constitutional republic. There's a huge difference. One that I really shouldn't have to articulate for you.
    Did you even read Centinel wrote about that or are you just playing blind?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Exactly. The Constitution is what we follow. If you're operating by something other than the Constitution, you're argument holds no water. And again, the United States is not like the United Nations at all. The United States is a nation. The United Nations is an organization of nations.
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people”

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Exactly. The Constitution is what we follow. If you're operating by something other than the Constitution, you're argument holds no water. And again, the United States is not like the United Nations at all. The United States is a nation. The United Nations is an organization of nations.
    We are an formation of nations united. Goddammit, you are horrible at your history.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people”
    Yeah, I am aware of this. However, treason was specifically outlined in the Constitution - their actions were prohibited.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We are an formation of nations united. Goddammit, you are horrible at your history.
    Amen. Now this is the gospel.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Exactly. The Constitution is what we follow. If you're operating by something other than the Constitution, you're argument holds no water. And again, the United States is not like the United Nations at all. The United States is a nation. The United Nations is an organization of nations.
    Yes, we follow the constitution. Could you please point out the clause in the constitution that gives the federal government the power to restrict withdrawal from the union. If you cannot, then, per the 10th amendment, that must be one of those reserved powers that the states never granted to their union.

    So, per the constitution, states are free to leave.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We are an formation of nations united. Goddammit, you are horrible at your history.
    History is relevant for history. At some point - we became a SINGLE NATION. We are not a group of nations like the United Nations is. I can't believe you're arguing this which pretty much says to me that you're trolling.

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