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Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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LaMidRighter said:
The only ignorance I've seen is the pro-north/Anti-Confederate Flag side, which got handily schooled BTW.
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I remember at least one other time when you claimed to have "schooled" me. I asked you to prove it and you did NOTHING.

This seems to be your M.O.
 
theplaydrive said:
I hope that's now what he's trying to say since that is a blatantly false and ridiculous statement, particularly as it pertains to the Episcopal Flag(s).
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The symbol was created after the Civil War and is synbolic of Leonidas Polk's service in the Confederate Army.
 
theplaydrive said:
I hope that's now what he's trying to say since that is a blatantly false and ridiculous statement, particularly as it pertains to the Episcopal Flag(s).
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I think he's suggesting that the Episcopal flag was made by Polk.

Ive seen no evidence of this. And even if it were, the Polk flag is nothing like that Stars & Bars.
 
haymarket said:
I remember at least one other time when you claimed to have "schooled" me. I asked you to prove it and you did NOTHING.

This seems to be your M.O.
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You didn't even realize you were beat, I gave up on you. Don't confuse that with winning.
 
Thunder said:
I think he's suggesting that the Episcopal flag was made by Polk.

Ive seen no evidence of this. And even if it were, the Polk flag is nothing like that Stars & Bars.
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Nope, never made that claim. But don't let my actual comments get in your way. Keep fabricating.
 
apdst said:
At least I came up with a source a hell of a lot better than YahooAnswers.
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A convicted mass murder raving in a white supremacist site is better!??!?!?!? That certainly tells us all something about your values and what you consider to be a good source of 'information'. Every day you lend more credence to the old saying 'give them enough rope and they will hang themselves."

And I still do not know what you are raving on about. And its obvious that neither do you. :lamo :doh
 
Dear Apdst,

The Episcopal flag was not adopted by the Church until 1940 and it was created in 1918. Here is explanation of the flag's design by its creator:


“The red cross is the oldest Christian
symbol dating back to the third century.
The white represents purity and the red the
b l o o d o f t h e m a r t y r s . T h e b l u e i s
ecclesiastical blue, light in color, and used
in the clothing of the Blessed Virgin Mary
and on this flag represents the human
nature of our Lord which He got from His
virgin mother.
“ The nine cross-crosslets or Jerusalem
crosses represent the nine dioceses that
convened in Philadelphia in 1789 when the
Constitution of the Protestant Episcopal
Church was adopted with its House of
Bishops and House of Clerical and Lay
Deputies and the Book of Common Prayer.
“The nine cross-crosslets are set in the
form of a St. Andrew’s cross in memory of
the fact that, to avoid swearing allegiance
to the British Crown, Bishop-elect Samuel
Se abury of Conne c t i cut had to go to
Scotland to be consecrated by Scottish
bishops.
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http://www.dioceselongisland.org/DOM94.pdf

I see no mention of the Confederacy.

Love,
What are you talking about?
 
Ohhhhhh! Now ya'll are screaming for evidence! You didn't seem to need evidence for your wild ass claims. So far, the closest thing actual docs any of you have produced is Haymarket's YahooAnswers link. :lamo

Funny how ya'll suddenly want supporting documentation, when you didn't think you needed for your own ****.

;)
 
Thunder said:
so you're saying you have no evidence for your claim?
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How much evidence of anything have you produced? None. Right?

You can't even support the racims you've displayed on this thread.

I love how ya'll suddenly start screaming for evidence, when after more than a thousand posts, you can't provide your own. Simply amazing!

Good night!
 
apdst said:
How much evidence of anything have you produced? None. Right?

You can't even support the racims you've displayed on this thread....
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I provide evidence for every claim that I make, and especially every claim where evidence is requested for it.

As to racism, what racism have I expressed in this thread?
 
theplaydrive said:
Oh I see, so only Southerners can have a valid opinion of the Confederate Flag. I think not.

It's a symbol of treason, slavery and racism in addition to a symbol of people's history, states' rights and whatever else.
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I am not a Southerner. I have no idea why you would say that nor imply that only Southerners could have a valid opinion.

What is the Swastica to you then? I understand that you are probably not a Nazi, but I would still like to hear it.

Originally Posted by LaMidRighter
I say no to finding a new symbol and to explain that. The PC crowd which lives under perpetual offense likes to designate what can and cannot be expressed in "polite company" they've decided what my culture means. I would rather have people give me a dirty look than give those pieces of trash one more victory. The racists most certainly have flown Dixie in less than noble fashion, I would rather kick them down the stairs than give them the power to take over and bastardize the meaning of my heritage. To accomplish both I say fly the flag with honor and dignity and tell those who don't or won't get it to find another hobby.
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Great Post!

Originally Posted by misterman
Here's the deal. A symbol can be different for different people.

The flag most certainly has meant racism, treason, slavery etc. to people in history - both in the Civil War era and more recent times. One can consider a symbol of something else, if you want. But it's been hijacked by the racists (much like the Nazis hijacked the swastika) and now you use it at your peril. A new symbol might be a good idea.
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Buddhists fly the Swastica with pride all over India and that region. It is all over buildings too... how about people stop being senstive weenies and put things into context isntead? Yeah, that would work...
 
Bodhisattva said:
...Buddhists fly the Swastica with pride all over India and that region. It is all over buildings too... how about people stop being senstive weenies and put things into context isntead? Yeah, that would work...
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no, the Nazi hakenkreutz (broken cross), is on a 45 degree angle and its arms face clockwise.

the Buddist swastika is sitting upright and its arms face counter-clockwise.
 
Thunder said:
no, the Nazi hakenkreutz (broken cross), is on a 45 degree angle and its arms face clockwise.

the Buddist swastika is sitting upright and its arms face counter-clockwise.
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So what? Some Buddhist Swastikas have four dots on them and they are both still Buddhist Swastikas...
 
Bodhisattva said:
I am not a Southerner. I have no idea why you would say that nor imply that only Southerners could have a valid opinion.
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I never said you were.:shrug:

I have no idea why you would say that nor imply that only Southerners could have a valid opinion.
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I wouldn't say or imply that. You would and you did.
 
apdst said:
How much evidence of anything have you produced? None. Right?

You can't even support the racims you've displayed on this thread.

I love how ya'll suddenly start screaming for evidence, when after more than a thousand posts, you can't provide your own. Simply amazing!

Good night!
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I love that people are liking your post after you've blatantly lied about other posters and made a blatantly false claim and cowered away after being called out for it. Add LaMidRighter and Bodhisattva to the list of people who shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
theplaydrive said:
I love that people are liking your post after you've blatantly lied about other posters and made a blatantly false claim and cowered away after being called out for it. Add LaMidRighter and Bodhisattva to the list of people who shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Awwwww. Whassa matter? You can't counter with anything so you try to discredit us? Come on I thought you were better than that.
 
apdst said:
How much evidence of anything have you produced? None. Right?

You can't even support the racims you've displayed on this thread.

I love how ya'll suddenly start screaming for evidence, when after more than a thousand posts, you can't provide your own. Simply amazing!

Good night!
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A poster asking for proper evidence is always something that must be answered or the alternative is to risk losing all credibility.

You want to say this must have been what it was like to sit in the fog and watch the Titanic sink into the North Atlantic night where the cold ocean waters simply took over inch by inch without even a whimper . But then you realize this is not even rowboat capsizing on small pond.

The idea that anyone could be so far out there and yet so oblivious at the same time is to their inability to actually conduct an actual discussion and present at least a semblance of a case is really striking.
 
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