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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Utterly amazing that the US Supreme Court - the official body whose legal opinion counts - disagreed with you on both of your claims. Imagine that!
    You better call the gubmint and get some g-men to New Hampshire, because they've already set up preimptive articles of secession.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The act fell and still does fall under the tenth amendment. The courting ruling that it didn't was in the interest of the union that just waged an illegal war that killed thousands of people.
    Yes, the fact remains that all powers not delegated to the union are reserved to the states. The power to compel membership was never granted to the union, hence the union has no legal authority to compel any state to remain in the union against its will.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869)
    Check the date on that.....

    The ruling was made AFTER the U.S.A. decided to attack the C.S.A. in order to preserve the union.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Check the date on that.....

    The ruling was made AFTER the U.S.A. decided to attack the C.S.A. in order to preserve the union.
    Correction. The USA didnt attack the csa. the csa never existed. They attacked insurgents within in the usa. Secession is prohibited by the constitution and therefore the csa was never recognized.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Check the date on that.....

    The ruling was made AFTER the U.S.A. decided to attack the C.S.A. in order to preserve the union.
    South Carolina fired the first shots. You can look it up.


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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Correction. The USA didnt attack the csa. the csa never existed. They attacked insurgents within in the usa. Secession is prohibited by the constitution and therefore the csa was never recognized.
    Do you feel that repeating the same fallacy over and over again will some how make it true? You've been asked several times to give evidence that the US Constitution prohibits secession, and you have not. The fact is, you can't because no such wording exists in the Constitution. If you were to dig a bit deeper, which requires truth-seeking (for which you seem to have an aversion), you would find that the Founders actually voted on the issue of whether or not to include the words "perpetual union" in the Constitution, not suprisingly, they voted it down. What we are left with is a Constitution which does not expressly prohibit secession.

    But don't let me stop you, go ahead, feel free to repeat the same nonsense again.........perhaps this time it will come true.

    One final question for you my cognitively challenged friend. At the end of the Civil War, CSA President, Jefferson Davis was arrested but never put on trial for treason? I wonder why? Go look up what Chief Justice Chase said regarding charges against Davis. Then report back expeditiously and tell us what you found.
    Last edited by FluffyNinja; 11-14-11 at 11:42 PM.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Correction. The USA didnt attack the csa. the csa never existed. They attacked insurgents within in the usa. Secession is prohibited by the constitution and therefore the csa was never recognized.
    And..... again. Prove it is prohibited by the constitution.
    Why do you keep running from this argument?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    South Carolina fired the first shots. You can look it up.
    Yes you are correct.

    However, refusing to leave a military base, and in fact sending reinforcements to said base was viewed as an act of aggression.

    The CSA went preemptive on them. Probably not the greatest idea, but they did.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And..... again. Prove it is prohibited by the constitution.
    It can't be proven. Hence the hand waving.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    This is getting stupid...

    ...Lincoln deliberately engaged the Civil War as a domestic insurrection.
    Last edited by Daktoria; 11-15-11 at 08:16 AM.

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