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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    However, these arguments, to me, seem like revisionist nonsense. The Confederate flag represents treason. It was the flag of people whose actions were not based in love of their country, but in a decision to give up on their country and abandon it in order to form a new one. It was a flag flown by those who decided that they no longer wished to be a part of the United States and that they no longer wished to solve their problems while remaining Americans.
    I say it it not a symbol of treason. For the part in bold is why it is not a symbol of treason. Now if they did not leave the union and did not formed their own country then yes it would be treasonous if they just went and attacked the northern states. Because in order for it to be treason they would have to be United States citizens. As Confederate citizens they had no obligation of loyalty to the Northern states. The confederate flag is a symbol of another country(a country that no longer exists) but not a symbol of treason. I do find it unpatriotic of American to fly another nation's flag.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's American history. I'm an American - which doesn't even matter because anybody of any country can have a valid opinion about it. Moreover, the idea that only Southeners can have a valid opinion on the meaning of the Confederate flag is a joke. By your logic, no human can understand anything about any other society. Do you realize how illogical that sounds?

    You're not an expert because you haven't studied it. If you studied it, you could become an expert. All you need is knowledge.

    At the end of the day, some people have an answer to the poll question that you don't like, so you've decided to say, "Well you don't get to have a valid opinion 'cause you don't live here." I can't even begin to explain how illogical and non-intellectual that comment is. The South is not a secret mysterious society that can only be deciphered by those who live there and neither is the Confederate flag. I'm sorry that you need to construct this imaginary world in order to intellectualize other people's opinions about your precious flag.
    But, it helps for that opinion to actually be an informed opinion, not skewed by political correctness.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    No the confederate symbol is not a symbol of treason.... Its a symbol of our history. Its also a symbol of "right wing rebellion"


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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?



    Would someone please kindly tell her to remove her clothes because they are offensive?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No one has argued that waving a Confederate flag is treasonous.
    Are you trolling? This is the only thing your OP was about.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Are you trolling? This is the only thing your OP was about.
    Actually it wasn't. My OP was about the flag being a symbol of treason waved by people who aren't traitors and the irony/stupidity of that phenomenon.

    Try harder.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, it helps for that opinion to actually be an informed opinion, not skewed by political correctness.
    My opinion is an informed opinion, but since you disagree with it, you call it political correctness and since LMR disagrees with it, he tries to make it a regional issue (even though many people in his region agree with me).

    The problem with both of you is that you are denying the flags history and only taking into account it's present meaning to many Southerners. I take both into account recognizing that it still retains it's history while also taking on the new meanings Southerners have given it over time.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    Would someone please kindly tell her to remove her clothes because they are offensive?
    Did this cause anyone to rise up and salute?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say it it not a symbol of treason. For the part in bold is why it is not a symbol of treason. Now if they did not leave the union and did not formed their own country then yes it would be treasonous if they just went and attacked the northern states. Because in order for it to be treason they would have to be United States citizens. As Confederate citizens they had no obligation of loyalty to the Northern states. The confederate flag is a symbol of another country(a country that no longer exists) but not a symbol of treason. I do find it unpatriotic of American to fly another nation's flag.
    But that's the thing. Those who fly the Confederate flag today are Americans. They are living in one country and flying the flag of another.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But that's the thing. Those who fly the Confederate flag today are Americans. They are living in one country and flying the flag of another.
    Yeah... and screw those mexicans for doing it too....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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