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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Yep, like I said. That's what the Blue Bonnie is- the flag for west florida back in the day. It became an element of Texas's flag. Like I said.
    It was also flown by Confederate army units, during the Civil War.

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    On 9 January 1861 the Convention of the People of Mississippi adopted an Ordinance of Secession and a large blue flag with a single white star was raised over the capital building in Jackson. Although the Confederate government did not adopt it, the people did. Lone star flags, in one form or another, were adopted in five of the Confederate States that adopted new flags in 1861.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Educate... him... on what? Your ridiculous assessment that the Somali flag is a version of some obscure flag most Somalis dead or alive have probably NEVER heard of?
    The blue field with the single white star didn't stop being an official Confederate flag, just because an African nation adopted it as it's national colors.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Now that is revisionist history. If this were true then there would be no state governments. Just a federal government.
    What a ridiculous nonsequitur. Colonial governments, you know the precursor to 'state governments', came into existence out of a need to better distribute the resources of the colonial whole. As such, while each of them had their own merits exemptions etc, they were seen as part of a whole. Furthermore, destroying the "mini-countries" argument is the fact that the US didn't come to experience any real regionalism until the 19th century. So how in Buddha's green earth could there have a notion that each state was its own entity? If you really want to make the case that each state was its own individual "mini-country" why did we create a FEDERATION and not a CONFEDERATION? Do you know the difference between the two?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There's also nothing in the constitution about an air force, immigration, executive orders, the electoral college etc. Your point being what? That the constitution is the guideline by which treason is determined?
    My point is that there is no constitutional prohibition against any of the member states leaving the federation. If you can point me to any such prohibition, please do so.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The blue field with the single white star didn't stop being an official Confederate flag, just because an African nation adopted it as it's national colors.
    Okay, you're now talking a whole bunch of nonsense. The Somali flag and the Bonnie flag are two completely different things and the Somalis DID NOT adopt the Bonnie Flag. You're looking like an ignorant fool at the mere suggestion of such a retardtastic idea.

    BTW, how many Episcopals do we have here?
    Do you mean ellipsis? Episcopalians are a religious denomination.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What a ridiculous nonsequitur. Colonial governments, you know the precursor to 'state governments', came into existence out of a need to better distribute the resources of the colonial whole. As such, while each of them had their own merits exemptions etc, they were seen as part of a whole. Furthermore, destroying the "mini-countries" argument is the fact that the US didn't come to experience any real regionalism until the 19th century. So how in Buddha's green earth could there have a notion that each state was its own entity? If you really want to make the case that each state was its own individual "mini-country" why did we create a FEDERATION and not a CONFEDERATION? Do you know the difference between the two?
    We didn't create either a Federation or a Confederation. We created a Union. Do you know the difference?

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you really want to make the case that each state was its own individual "mini-country" why did we create a FEDERATION and not a CONFEDERATION? Do you know the difference between the two?
    No, I don't know the difference. What is it?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    My point is that there is no constitutional prohibition against any of the member states leaving the federation. If you can point me to any such prohibition, please do so.
    So.... the.... ****.... what? The Constitution isn't by any stretch of the imagination the only document which should be looked at on political matters.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Okay, you're now talking a whole bunch of nonsense. The Somali flag and the Bonnie flag are two completely different things and the Somalis DID NOT adopt the Bonnie Flag. You're looking like an ignorant fool at the mere suggestion of such a retardtastic idea.



    Do you mean ellipsis? Episcopalians are a religious denomination.
    Ok, whatever: How many Episcopalians do we have?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So.... the.... ****.... what? The Constitution isn't by any stretch of the imagination the only document which should be looked at on political matters.
    Especially when it doesn't go your way. Huh?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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