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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    People always bring this up, but the "blacks enslaving blacks" thing doesn't have the significance that many claim it does. Africans weren't "enslaving their own" as people like to say. For the most part, African slavery was about doing something with prisoners of war and members of enemy tribes/societies. This practice was common throughout history in almost every civilization to a certain extent.

    This, however, was not at all the foundation of American slavery nor did the relationship between enemy tribes/societies mirror the relationship of the white slave master and the black slave or the American master and the African slave.
    Yea I have got to agree with Theplaydrive on this one. It is pretty irrelevant to the discussion as a whole.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    So stop responding to me.
    Why would I want to do that?

    How is it a word game to point out that I already answered a question that you accused me of being afraid to answer?
    That isn't the word game... but it is interesting that you don't answer direct question with direct responses. Very telling. That isn't how people debate.

    If by "tweaked", you mean "wrote it out in a more detailed and organized fashion", then yes.
    Yes... more detailed and in a fashion that combines arguments such as mine so as to make your "tweaked" newer version sound more reasonable.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    People always bring this up, but the "blacks enslaving blacks" thing doesn't have the significance that many claim it does. Africans weren't "enslaving their own" as people like to say. For the most part, African slavery was about doing something with prisoners of war and members of enemy tribes/societies. This practice was common throughout history in almost every civilization to a certain extent.

    This, however, was not at all the foundation of American slavery nor did the relationship between enemy tribes/societies mirror the relationship of the white slave master and the black slave or the American master and the African slave.
    Of course not.
    A labor product was put on the market that had a demand for said product.... that product being a slave.

    Supply and Demand.

    The supply came from dominate tribes.......... The demand came from the need for many hands to do the work at a low cost. One could say the initial up-front cost wasn't low, but if you took care of your slave (your investment) you got your money's worth out of it many times over.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wow.... So why are you still participating in this thread if you are just going to.......

    Is that Dixon or ToT... hard to tell.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Then prove it. That is what a debate is about. Nobody gives a squirel **** about your opinion...
    you want me to prove, that the African slave-trade was racist?

    that's like asking me to prove that the Holocaust killed millions of Jews.

    Last edited by Thunder; 11-27-11 at 05:57 PM.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    People always bring this up, but the "blacks enslaving blacks" thing doesn't have the significance that many claim it does. Africans weren't "enslaving their own" as people like to say. For the most part, African slavery was about doing something with prisoners of war and members of enemy tribes/societies. This practice was common throughout history in almost every civilization to a certain extent.
    you are ignoring that black societies did, indeed, enslave other blacks.... not just captured and sold them off.. huge swaths of the populations of various african countries were ,indeed, slaves
    there's a lot more to the slavery story than racism.
    and yes, it does have significance... hell dude, Ethiopia had an estimated 2 million slaves a full 50 years after we had ended slavery here, Nigeria had roughly the same number at the same point in time... don't tell me that doesn't have significance.

    This, however, was not at all the foundation of American slavery nor did the relationship between enemy tribes/societies mirror the relationship of the white slave master and the black slave or the American master and the African slave.
    the foundation of American slavery was not always rooted in racism either... although it certainly did manifest itself as such with the passage of time.
    hell,we had over 100 years of institutional slavery before it was racialized.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you want me to prove, that the African slave-trade was racist?

    that's like asking me to prove that the Holocaust killed millions of Jews.


    Yet you have still refused to do so.........................

    We are waiting in anxious anticipation......
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you are ignoring that black societies did, indeed, enslave other blacks.... not just captured and sold them off.. huge swaths of the populations of various african countries were ,indeed, slaves
    there's a lot more to the slavery story than racism.
    and yes, it does have significance... hell dude, Ethiopia had an estimated 2 million slaves a full 50 years after we had ended slavery here, Nigeria had roughly the same number at the same point in time... don't tell me that doesn't have significance.
    As far as America and Europe go? No not really. It is nothing but anther link in an economic chain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the foundation of American slavery was not always rooted in racism either... although it certainly did manifest itself as such with the passage of time.
    hell,we had over 100 years of institutional slavery before it was racialized.
    This is true.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Is that Dixon or ToT... hard to tell.
    ToT is watching and reporting to the men that fly black helicopters!

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    you don't answer direct question with direct responses.
    I just explained to you that I responded to the same question you asked me when it was asked by 1-2 other posters. If answer question X when it's posed to me by other posters, but I don't answer question X when it's posed by you, the problem is you. It's not that I'm "afraid" of the question...since I...answered the question, LOL.

    Yes... more detailed and in a fashion that combines arguments such as mine so as to make your "tweaked" newer version sound more reasonable.
    Meh, I welcome you to read my posts in this part of the thread because every argument I put in the one we're currently talking about was in several individual posts by me yesterday. I essentially just put them altogether. Those are in this thread for you to read so it's pretty clear that you're just living up to your pattern of making comments about people before actually reading what they say.

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