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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Not really, but since it's clear you aren't getting the hints as to why you're post has nothing to do with this thread, I'll just post my original response to the same point brought up by someone who brought it up much earlier than you did (and who was also much more respectful than you are).



    It's the same with your comment. Yes, the American and Confederate flags were flown by states with similar histories. Both had slavery, treason, racism, etc. But the American flag does not represent treason against America and it does not represent a group fighting for an economy, rights, etc. that revolved around slavery so the fact that you keep bringning up the similarities as if they mean something shows, again, that all the discussions in this thread have flown straight over your head.

    Please go away now. You're only a hot headed distraction.
    "Yes, the American and Confederate flags were flown by states with similar histories. Both had slavery, treason, racism, etc"

    There you go. You get it now... amazing. And Hell is barely lukewarm.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Also many of a fortune was tied up in slaves as a capital investment.
    This is true.

    Its also true that many northern banks loaned money to southern farmers for the purchase of slaves.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    So are you trying to argue that early Americans didn't find non-Christians savage? I like debating with you apdst. It's the easiest thing I've had to do all day and all I've done today is eat.
    No more than the indians found th early American Christians savage. During the first winter in America, the Pilgrims actually robbed an indian village for food, because they were on the verge of starving to death.

    I'm sure the indians thought that was purdy dog-gone savage of them.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Yeah, I know. I said that in my first response to you. We're talking about who was chosen to be slaves.
    Those who were being provided at the time, for the low low cost of Rum and other common items.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    But they weren't.
    The color of their skin was nothing more than coindence.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh, I disagree. I've learned that it was more like "Hey, Africans are cheap, inferior, conveniently located and physically able to handle the labor, let's enslave them". You and Caine are trying to reduce slavery and it's start to money alone and that simplification is wrong.
    It costs money to enslave, transport, feed, house, etc slaves... so what other motive would those in the slave trade/business have had for enslaving people then genuis?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    So are you trying to argue that early Americans didn't find non-Christians savage? I like debating with you apdst. It's the easiest thing I've had to do all day and all I've done today is eat.
    You done choking yet? Gotta change your shirt now? We'll wait...
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh, I disagree. I've learned that it was more like "Hey, Africans are cheap, inferior, conveniently located and physically able to handle the labor, let's enslave them". You and Caine are trying to reduce slavery and it's start to money alone and that simplification is wrong.
    Slaves weren't cheap. Hey were expensive as hell. A field hand could cost anywhere from $1,500-$2,000. That's why many in the North didn't own slaves, it wasn't cost effective and the Irish immigrants arriving by the boatload were cheaper.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The color of their skin was nothing more than coindence.
    Would the fact that you in post after post fail to actually say anything of historical relevance combined with you being the most vocal apologist for the confederacy and the despicable treatment of African Americans also be nothing more than coincidence?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Three highly intelligent and well informed posters ust explained to you why it didn't. Unless you're suggesting that black folks are too weak minded to get past slavery. Not sure what you're getting at, so you may want to explain yourself, before your racist side is exposed for all to see.




    Did I say anything about the KKK? But, while we're on the subject, let me remind you of the speech, on eugenics, that Margaret Sanger gave at a klan rally. You know her; famous Progressive; founder of Planned Parenhood.

    Oh, BTW, the rally was held in...New Jersey! Thought I would point that out, before you automatically assumed that it took place in the South, which I'm sure was only seconds away.
    When you say these things, do even you believe what you are writing? By this point I have come to be half suspecting that you are merely having what you believe is a good laugh by pretending to be this cartoon caricature. What else could explain such foolishness as this from you

    Facts? No. That crap? Oh hell-to-the-yeah!
    I see no three high intelligent and well informed posters offering anything of substance on this subject which overrides the painful reality of hundreds of years of slavery, followed by Jim Crow, Plessey v. Ferguson, the Klan and oppressive southern governments systematically ifnoring the US Constitution.

    If you do, feel free to present it and I will be happy to tear it apart.
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