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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Let's turn things around a little: is the Confederate flag a symbol of patriotism for and loyalty to, the United States?
    That is irrelevant.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If you mean "his" and not "your," I agree. Or is there a gap in the logic of my anti-Confederacy position?



    BINGO. We, as American citizens, have every right to disagree with a Court decision. But we do not have the right to disobey it. Texas v. White is a legally binding precedent, whether the sympathizers want to admit it or not. When it comes to the legality of secession, there is absolutely nothing to debate. It makes about as much sense to argue that the Earth is flat or that gravity doesn't exist.
    Precedent is a horrible idea, and its by itself is NOT legally binding, idiot. It is the court cases decisions themselves that is LEGALLY binding, you ****ing dullard. Second, people have argued against court opinions, and in extension their decisions since the beginning of the country. Hell, Madison himself, the ****ing author disputed a decision in his time. A decision even got a court justice removed because of how unfounded it was. Maybe you should learn your history for a change instead of just parroting bull**** with no real basis?

    As for Playdrive demanding referencing, he can read the federalist papers or any other paper written on the topic, the clauses, etc by the founders. He is a dullard, just like you.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    As for Playdrive demanding referencing, he can read the federalist papers or any other paper written on the topic, the clauses, etc by the founders. He is a dullard, just like you.
    I never said anything about the federalist papers. I just said the Supreme Court ruled secession treason and illegal. It did. The federalist papers have nothing to do with that. Sorry.

    Personal attack noted. I guess that what's you do when the SC says something you don't like - shoot the messenger.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You miss my point, though. What exactly does the Constitution prohibit states from doing, other than a few restrictions at the end of Article I?
    Not much. As you say, there are restrictions placed on member states in article I. If I miss your point, what is it?

    Again, because the Constitution doesn't require states to outlaw murder and arson, they can make them legal. At least, by your logic, that's what could happen.
    Yes, that is in the nature of a sovereign state. Any sovereign state could make murder legal. However, I'm not sure how many sovereign states in the world actually make murder and rape legal.

    You question the authority of the Supreme Court? On what grounds?
    On the grounds that it is absurd for the states' agent to be the judge of exactly what power it has over the states that created it. Also, their decision is not based on any of the enumerated powers delegated to the federation by the states.

    -The Articles of Confederation (which, though not directly a part of the Constitution, was its predecessor, and goes into greater length about states' joining the US)
    Were dissolved and are no longer applicable.

    -The responsibility of every state to provide for a republican form of government (with the implication that said government can't just bail out when it wants)
    Correct, every state in the union, per their agreement, must maintain a republican form of government. This restriction only applies to states actually in the union, not states that are not members of the union.

    -The power of Congress to suppress insurrections
    At the request of the governor of a state.


    Interestingly, they could have entertained the "necessary and proper" clause but didn't feel that they needed to go that far.
    Or perhaps the commerce clause...

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    That's weird, because my comment was directly in response to you saying:
    Irrelevant when you started with the petty crap...

    Like I said, you get what you put out. So your drivel ridden response to me means one of two things: You're either dishonest or trolling. Either one completely changes my perception of you and puts your posts on the "not serious or intelligent" list. Have fun with that.
    So the guy that whines pathetically about my initial statement regarding the potnetially benign nature of the CF is now focused solely on my response to his disrespectful tripe? Untwist your panties, grow some balls and take a step back and just see how ridiculous you are being for a second.

    Again: Your thoughts only promote hate. Your thoughts only promote division. Your thoughts are a pathetic thing that only moral evolution could eradicate. Once you evolve intellectually and morally you will one day see how trivial your opinion once was.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I never said anything about the federalist papers. I just said the Supreme Court ruled secession treason and illegal. It did. The federalist papers have nothing to do with that. Sorry.

    Personal attack noted. I guess that what's you do when the SC says something you don't like - shoot the messenger.
    "Personal attack noted"... LOL!

    I see you with a bit of snot edging down your lip as you wipe a tear from you eye with your sleeve...

    He didn't say you said anything about them, he said that you could read them... intelligence level noted.
    Outcome: Lacking basic IQ pre-requisite to debate with on a serious level.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is irrelevant.
    how can a question be irrelevant?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how can a question be irrelevant?
    A question can't... you are correct. The irrelevant part is how that question pertains to this issue. It doesn't.

    Just to answer your question on its own merits though: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of patriotism for and loyalty to, the United States?

    I would say no.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    143 pages have been wasted on a thread that can really be summed up in one statement: The Supreme Court decided that secession is both illegal and treasonous.

    Anyone is free to disagree with the Supreme Court decision, but that disagreement has no impact on the reality of what the Court has decided just like any other disagreement with the SC has no impact on law (see pro-lifers and Roe v. Wade for more information). If you disagree that secession is illegal, I suggest you get a lawyer.

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