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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    You should stop with the racism, it doesn't help your already wanting credibility.
    remember the thread on Perry Opposes confederate license plates in the 2012 Presidential Election section of this board? remember the exchange between you an I over pages 23 - 28 in which I exposed your Mr. Grooms as a convicted murderer serving a life sentence in Indiana and now writing for Aryan supremacy and white supremacy dirtsheets who was one of your main sources in info about slavery?

    And your repeated failure to back up your claim about 14 states having state wide referendums on secession instead only coming up with three?

    And you dare to raise either the issue of racism or credibility to another poster!!!!
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    But they ignored the right to freedom that they were taking away from their "property". That dog doesn't bark.
    The same thing was going on in the North. Only, it wasn't called, "slavery".

    The industrialists of the North weren't about to let go of their right to enslave their workers. Did you know that in 1861, you could go to prison for quitting a job, if you owed money to the company store?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    remember the thread on Perry Opposes confederate license plates in the 2012 Presidential Election section of this board? remember the exchange between you an I over pages 23 - 28 in which I exposed your Mr. Grooms as a convicted murderer serving a life sentence in Indiana and now writing for Aryan supremacy and white supremacy dirtsheets who was one of your main sources in info about slavery?

    And your repeated failure to back up your claim about 14 states having state wide referendums on secession instead only coming up with three?

    And you dare to raise either the issue of racism or credibility to another poster!!!!
    You just can't get over that spanking. Can you?

    I can appreciate how you feel; you got all those pieces of paper telling everyone that you're smarter than the rest of us and I'm sure you paid some serious jack to get them and you're left lieing face down in the gutter by a truck driver from Louisiana with a high school diploma.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The same thing was going on in the North. Only, it wasn't called, "slavery".

    The industrialists of the North weren't about to let go of their right to enslave their workers. Did you know that in 1861, you could go to prison for quitting a job, if you owed money to the company store?
    And that was bad, doesn't change the fact that the Confederacy was fighting for the right to own slaves.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wow! Which one of your Libbo college professors blew all that smoke up your butt?
    Nothing I said was inaccurate. In fact, some of what I said actually supports your point. Good job reading.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    And that was bad, doesn't change the fact that the Confederacy was fighting for the right to own slaves.
    If that were a fact, you might be right. But, alas, it is not.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nothing I said was inaccurate. In fact, some of what I said actually supports your point. Good job reading.
    You haven't made an accurate appraisel of the time period, yet!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If that were a fact, you might be right. But, alas, it is not.
    It is but alas, you don't care.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Can you prove that this is WHY the typical Confederate soldier was fighting (strictly to defend an institution which they could never afford to take part in)? I'll answer for you...............NOPE. You can't prove it. Like I said, go back and read Goshin's and apdst's explanations for why these men were fighting, I'm too lazy to type it all over again.
    For what purpose? So that you guys can continue to dance around the issue with a bunch of half-truths? No, thanks. I think everyone here understands that most confederate soldiers did not own slaves, but that is besides the point anyway. Most Nazi soldiers were not part of death camps and did not share an agenda with Hitler, but that doesn't mean the Nazi flag represents freedom of the oppression that were put on them after WWI. The Confederate flag will always represent the institution of slavery and the fight to keep it to those of us who aren't so biased as to try to find any reason to defend it.

    Try as you might, but symbols are subjective and I can bet almost anyone who has not been indoctrinated that the Confederate flag represents [insert historically incorrect data here] is reminded of the institution of slavery every time they see it. I know when I see the flag, that is literally all it reminds me of - the Civil war and the fight to keep slavery in the US. Also, again, was there something in the Daily Show you wanted to argue with, or were you just spouting rhetoric as I suspected?

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    You know you have hit a new low when you are citing apdst as research "because you are too lazy".
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It is but alas, you don't care.
    Good, prove it. Show us primary source docs that support your opinion. Thanks in advance.

    BTW, the Articles of Secession aren't primary source documentation.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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