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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Indeed. We are not the European Union. We aren't even Canada, which is a confederacy of Provinces. We are ONE nation.
    Please support your claim by citing the founders or ratifiers.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    I guess you're trying to tell us that some racism ok, but other racism isn't. And you call me ignorant?
    Actually you are viewed as IGNORANT - at least on the subject of the Civil war era because of statements like this one

    What I will do, however, prove that all 11 Confederate states and 3 border states had state wide referendums on secession.
    And what you did offer was a measly three states which did so. A bigger and wiser man would fess up to his shortcomings and failures and move on. A truly ignorant man doubles down looking at a losing hand.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Let me give you a better analogy. Say you are renting an apartment and your landlord institutes a new policy prohibiting pets. Well you disagree and you decide that you are going to claim that apartment as your own. That is illegal. If you want to keep your pet you move to an apartment that allows it. Same thing. The redneck crackers should have gone to a country where slavery was allowed. Not that there were any left. We were the last ones to abolish it. The South keeps trying to block progress.
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    hey.. where is thunder?... come on over and tell me this cat isn't a racist/bigot again.... come on over and defend him some more... show us your colors like he has shown us his.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Please support your claim by citing the founders or ratifiers.
    We, the People, in order to form a perfect UNION. Establish justice and insure DOMESTIC tranquility. Provide for the COMMON defense. Promote the GENERAL welfare and secure the blessings of liberty, to OURSELVES and our posterity...do ordain & establish this Constitution of the UNITED States of America.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ...hey.. where is thunder?... come on over and tell me this cat isn't a racist/bigot again.... come on over and defend him some more... show us your colors like he has shown us his.
    do you know how I define a "redneck"? a racist white person. poverty need not be included.

    no, its not bigotry...to hate racism and racists.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Well, the states were sovereign, independent nation-states prior to entering into their compact, correct?
    Let's straighten out some terminology. A "nation-state" is a country based upon an ethnic grouping. None of the States currently in the union fit that description, and you'll have a heck of a time convincing me that the people of North Carolina are essentially a different culture than South Carolina.

    You may continue with your misguided argument that we are not "One nation, Under God, indivisble," if you wish.


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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    "redneck crackers"

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    hey.. where is thunder?... come on over and tell me this cat isn't a racist/bigot again.... come on over and defend him some more... show us your colors like he has shown us his.
    As usual you don't even bother trying to rebut my argument and focus on what term i used for the redneck crackers from the south. I guess next time I am debating health care reform with you I will single out use of "obamacare" and ignore the rest of your post. Speaking of which. I though you were going to ignore the rest of my posts especially the ones where i use "racist" terminology.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Let's straighten out some terminology. A "nation-state" is a country based upon an ethnic grouping. None of the States currently in the union fit that description, and you'll have a heck of a time convincing me that the people of North Carolina are essentially a different culture than South Carolina.

    You may continue with your misguided argument that we are not "One nation, Under God, indivisble," if you wish.
    Exactly. We aren't 50 different cultures like people believe. Its disheartening that some people still want to think that.
    Last edited by 99percenter; 11-19-11 at 08:47 PM.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Actually, the north is the revisionist side here. I'll give the simplest analogy I can since people either couldn't or wouldn't understand the Gitmo, or China analogies that myself and other posters presented.

    If I allow you to stay on my property while we have an agreement and you put up a house, it is still on my property. Let's say we have irreconcilable differences and I void the agreement, I may make you an offer to reimburse you for the house but you must vacate the property and move all belongings you want to keep, regardless of what you feel is yours you do not own anything within the borders. If you then refuse to leave I then give a stern warning that I do not want you on the premises but you persist, and then you get the authorities on your side whether or not the law states you have any rights or claims to my property. Well, the next step is to put bullets into anything that becomes a problem.

    For the purposes of the analogy you doesn't mean any particular poster or other human being, it's just to personalize so that maybe people will understand.
    You need to get your facts straight (and cut out the flaming).

    For one thing, a hostile group of Southerners basically had Ft. Sumter surrounded and cut off from basic supplies. That could have been construed as an act of war. But fortunately, one of the many things the Confederacy didn't have was the shrewd leader Abraham Lincoln. Instead of attacking, he sent a supply vessel to Ft. Sumter so that the men could have food on their table. The aggressive Southerners, of course, wanted nothing to do with this, choosing to assault the fort instead.

    Also, you beg the question of the legality of secession. Pro-secessionists WANT it to be legal, and they keep crying "10th Amendment," despite the fact that the Supreme Court has clearly ruled that this is not the case.

    Can I ask you something? Why are you and a few others so eager to defend a "nation" (and I use that word VERY loosely) that established itself as a sworn enemy of the United States of America? I, for one, and SO glad that the Confederacy got crushed in the Civil War. United States of America, not Divided States of America.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Let's straighten out some terminology. A "nation-state" is a country based upon an ethnic grouping. None of the States currently in the union fit that description, and you'll have a heck of a time convincing me that the people of North Carolina are essentially a different culture than South Carolina.

    You may continue with your misguided argument that we are not "One nation, Under God, indivisble," if you wish.
    its unbelievable sometimes, what folks say regarding the Civil War.

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