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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the USA was nor formed mostly out of a desire to preserve slavery.
    Neither was the CSA.....mostly.

    the CSA, was formed out of a desire to preserve slavery.
    Why did you not say "mostly" here as well? Could it be that the CSA formed out of a desire to preserve slavery ONLY inasmuch as the United States did in 1776 (1789)? Could it be possible that slavery was just an ancillary issue and that it boiled down to property rights/state's rights which happened to include the South's chief source of revenue (slave-driven agriculture). Could it be that the Founding Fathers favored separation of the colonies for many of the same reasons? If the previous statement were rational.....could it also be that the Stars and Stripes is just as representative of slavery (and that dark period in our nation's history) as is the Confederate Flag?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    I already addressed this; however, truth avoidance seems to be one of your primary MO's. Answer: The USA certainly was not formed with the "political desire" to abolish slavery either, as the majority of the Revolutionary Fathers and Founders were slave-owners themselves. Also, Constitutional statehood/nationhood WAS NOT contingent upon the abolishment of slavery.

    Finally, the cotton, tobacco, and sugar cane, industries of the South made up a huge percentage of the exports and revenue for our fledgling nation.............oh, and the Founders knew that production of these goods was dependent upon slave labor at the time.

    BTW, you gonna ever answer the question of whether or not displaying the Stars and Stripes should be banned as well. After all, it proudly flew over the "Peculiar Institution" for much longer than the Confederate flag did?
    The founders knew that eventually slavery will get phased out. That's why they never mentioned slavery in the constitution.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Neither was the CSA.....mostly...
    this is a lie.

    the CSA was formed to preserve & defend property rights. The right to own black human beings as property.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    he wasn't using the term to describe poor white people.

    he was using the term to describe white racists who apologize for slavery.
    Exactly, I wonder how people fail to see the distinction. Maybe they are part of the latter group you described and are highly offended.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have seen gross ignorance in spades on this site. One poster claimed he would offer proof that all eleven confederate states held state wide votes on secession along with an additional three border states as well. he could only come up with a tiny three and was left looking rather foolish. Same poster offered the lunatic ranting of some convicted killer in prison for first degree murder that was published on Aryan and white supremacy sites because even wikipedia would not let the crap pollute their site.

    Now that is ignorance supreme.
    Hey Haymarket. Which state had the largest number of sworn/registered KKK members between 1880 and 1950? Better yet, how many Southern States do you believe are even in the top 10? Look it up, or do you have an aversion for truth as well? Or would you prefer that I just answer for you?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Hey Haymarket. Which state had the largest number of sworn/registered KKK members between 1880 and 1950?...
    how convenient of you, to stop at 1950.


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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    The founders knew that eventually slavery will get phased out. That's why they never mentioned slavery in the constitution.
    They knew this how? Consulted the Stars? Better yet, I would sincerely, like for you to PROVE to me how YOU know, which future events the Founders were predicting 223 years ago. I'm going to sit back, this should be good!
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    They knew this how? Consulted the Stars? Better yet, I would sincerely, like for you to PROVE to me how YOU know, which future events the Founders were predicting 223 years ago. I'm going to sit back, this should be good!
    why do you deny that slavery was the main cause of the South's secession?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how convenient of you, to stop at 1950.

    How convenient (and predictable) of you to dodge the question, YET AGAIN.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    "hick", is not a racist term..if it is used to as part of criticism of one's racist beliefs.

    there is nothing wrong with calling poor white racist people, "hicks".
    So then according to your logic, poor black racist people can be called niggers?

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