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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, Confederate ministers going to France and England probably doesn't count, I guess?....
    please name those countries that officially recognized the legitimacy and soveriegnity of the CSA, by establishing diplomatic relations.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Usually "diplomatic relations" means an official recognition of sovereignty and an exchange of ambassadors. Just because it "sounds like a diplomatic relation" to you doesn't constitute diplomatic relations.

    Well, it all started with, "recognition", then when that didn't work it was, "official recognition", then, "England and France refused to do business with the Confederates", and when that blew up in their faces it became, "official, diplomatic relations", and that went to ****, so it became, "exchanged ambassadors and embassies". What's next, "super-special, official, kewl, diplomatic recognition signed in blood"?

    Making up your own meanings for words, and then you call everyone else "revisionists."
    At least I know the difference between the Stars and Bars and the Confederate Battle Flag.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Only if their credentials are accepted by the government there. They also, apparently sent representatives to negotiate with Lincoln...guess that means Lincoln recognized them.

    yep, that must be it.


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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    please name those countries that officially recognized the legitimacy and soveriegnity of the CSA, by establishing diplomatic relations.
    I knew you were going to re-invent your arguement somehow.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Only if their credentials are accepted by the government there. They also, apparently sent representatives to negotiate with Lincoln...guess that means Lincoln recognized them.
    James Mason was minister to Queen Elizabeth and John Slidell was minister to Napolean III. I'm thinking their credentials were accepted, or they wouldn't have stayed in town.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    No foreign nation officially recognized the Confederate States of America as an independent country

    Confederate States of America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    I guess we solved that one.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    No foreign nation officially recognized the Confederate States of America as an independent country

    Confederate States of America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    I guess we solved that one.
    I never said they did. This all started when I pointed out that European countries did do business with the Confederacy.

    However, diplomatic relations and diplomatic recognition are two differen things. Were there diplomatic relations? Yes. Official diplomatic recognition? No.

    Nice job of muddying the water, though
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said they did. This all started when I pointed out that European countries did do business with the Confederacy...
    sure, they allowed trading to occur.


    but they never recognized the legitimacy nor soveriegnity of the CSA.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    sure, they allowed trading to occur.


    but they never recognized the legitimacy nor soveriegnity of the CSA.
    I never said they did. Glad you can admit that the comment about the Confederacy and Europe not doing business is a bald-cafe lie, though. You've come a long way.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    ...Glad you can admit that the comment about the Confederacy and Europe not doing business is a bald-cafe lie, though. You've come a long way.
    good thing I never made such a comment. maybe you're talking about someone else.

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