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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    first you answer my question, and I'll happily answer yours.
    I answered your question, before you ever asked it.

    I'll add to it by telling you that several European countries sent observers to serve with the Confederate Army.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I answered your question, before you ever asked it....
    so if Muslims declared part of London to be a seperate state, they would have the right to attack a local police station, as it was now illegally occupied territory???

    wow.


    now, how many countries established diplomatic relations with the CSA?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so if Muslims declared part of London to be a seperate state, they would have the right to attack a local police station, as it was now illegally occupied territory???

    wow.


    now, how many countries established diplomatic relations with the CSA?
    Oh, I dunno, you could probably start with the list of countries that were selling war materials to the Confederacy.

    Go ahead, re-invent your argument. I know it's coming.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, I dunno, you could probably start with the list of countries that were selling war materials to the Confederacy....

    ah, so those nations that sold weapons to the CSA, set up embassies & exchanged embassadors huh?

    that's what establishing diplomatic relations means, ya know.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ah, so those nations that sold weapons to the CSA, set up embassies & exchanged embassadors huh?

    that's what establishing diplomatic relations means, ya know.

    And, since you've re-invented your argument, that's the only way to qualify, "diplomatic relations"? I'm sure it's not, but I know you're going to desperately grasp at whatever game of semantics you can to make yourself look less ignorant.


    BTW, Arthur Fremantle was a British observer with the Army of Northern Virginia. Sounds like a diplomatic relation, to me.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, since you've re-invented your argument, that's the only way to qualify, "diplomatic relations"?....

    exchanging ambassadors and establishing embassies on each other's territory. thats what establishing diplomatic relations means.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    If you can produce some real evidence that shows that the CSA planned all along to invade the Union
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    They didn't intend to invade the Union
    This must be why you accept the Southern apologists word for word. You read whatever meaning you want to read, instead of what people wrote.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, since you've re-invented your argument, that's the only way to qualify, "diplomatic relations"? I'm sure it's not, but I know you're going to desperately grasp at whatever game of semantics you can to make yourself look less ignorant.


    BTW, Arthur Fremantle was a British observer with the Army of Northern Virginia. Sounds like a diplomatic relation, to me.
    Usually "diplomatic relations" means an official recognition of sovereignty and an exchange of ambassadors. Just because it "sounds like a diplomatic relation" to you doesn't constitute diplomatic relations.

    Making up your own meanings for words, and then you call everyone else "revisionists."


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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    exchanging ambassadors and establishing embassies on each other's territory. thats what establishing diplomatic relations means.
    So, Confederate ministers going to France and England probably doesn't count, I guess?

    Go ahead, raise the bar another notch. Perhaps you can point out that no European ambassadors built homes in the South, with private parking for their beemers, with diplomatic plates.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, Confederate ministers going to France and England probably doesn't count, I guess?
    Only if their credentials are accepted by the government there. They also, apparently sent representatives to negotiate with Lincoln...guess that means Lincoln recognized them.


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