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Thread: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

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    Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    Immigration in the 21st century:

    I know this will shock and offend many of you but I'm asking if you will take the time to contemplate what I am saying with an open mind and weigh it against the consequencies of the present course of our nation and where it is taking us.

    Immigration in the 21st century has become more complex than anytime during the 19th or 20th centuries, including during the two world wars. Besides being outdated, these old policies are a threat to freedom, the economy, public safety, US sovereignty, the American way of life and western civilization in general.

    Besides the obvious dangers of WMDs and the negative light the US is now viewed in by many around the world, there are some other very real social factors we should take into consideration.

    When The Declaration of Independence was ratified there was less than a billion people in the world. As of 10/30/2011 the world population hit the 7 billion mark and is snowballing.

    To secure our way of life for the sake of our future generations, each of us must determine whether our priorities are owed to ourselves and our families or to international humanitarian and egalitarian duties.

    The majority of new immigrants are fleeing poverty and considered a minority once in America. Their first election will expose them to a political party that makes promises to provide free services in exchange for their vote.

    As the government provides more and more services it becomes neccessary to confiscate more and more of the peoples earnings and assets. This is called socialism. This is the future of our present immigration policy.

    Taking into consideration the dangers ahead, which we are beginning to see the first signs of in the european nations, should the United States continue with it's outdated immigration standards and policies and non-existant border security?

    Is it time we show the world that the US will no longer tolerate those who violate our laws by crossing our borders illegally or overstaying a temporary visa and then expecting and even demanding to be granted amnesty and citizinship?

    Is it time that we begin scrutinizing more closely those who apply for citizenship by new updated standards to ensure we only get the best and the brightest and the healthiest, who will be an asset rather than a burden on our resources?

    When determining who should be eligible for US citizenship should we consider factoring in such things such as; nation of origin/birth? race? religion? age? disabilities/physical and mental?

    Should a new immigration slogan be adopted that reads:
    Give us your just of heart and moral by nature, who are healthy of mind and body and of sufficient intelligence to learn and to cope in the 21st century, who will teach their children to be good people and patriotic Americans, who will love and honor and be responsible for their family's welfare, who will obey our laws and defend our constitution and way of life against all enemies, who will never endeavor to destroy what millions have sweated and bled and died to create but will honor their sacrifice by preserving their creation with their own sweat and blood and life if neccessary, who wish to be an American because they believe it is the greatest nation on earth and will show allegence to no other flag, and above all will recognize that to become an American Citizen is the greatest honor on earth and bestowed only on the deserving.
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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    I agree we need new immigration policies and we need to put OUR OWN FIRST..but its not going to happen...the democrats want illegals for votes..and the GOP wants them for dirt cheap labor that dilutes the cost of labor for them through out the country...the only way to force the change is if enough of the mass's let them know in no uncertain terms weve had enough of thier chit

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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    As long as the welfare state still lives, immigration laws must be thoroughly enforced. We can discuss the issue again once it's gone.

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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    I think the country should get into the habit of actually enforcing the laws it already has. Then we can talk about changing the laws.
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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    Gosh, when I first saw the thread title, I thought.. huh? um, you can't keep time from happening. Actually, neither party has developed a policy for effectively dealing with immigration. They were both too leary of offending the huge Latino vote in the past.

    Besides, isn't the problem the illegals, not those who legally apply for immigration? Won't big fines for the companies who employ illegals get rid of a lot of the problem?
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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    New Zealand has a pretty good immigration policy to build on.
    Some thoughts for a new policy,
    - must show proof of self reliance, (i.e, employment, savings, etc).
    - higher eduction in needed fields
    - improve migrant farm worker program
    - harsher penalties for illegal entry or overstaying visa
    - harsher penalties for companies that hire illegal immigration

    Today, immigration into the US needs to be based on what our economy needs/support, what skills we need for our future (doctors, engineers, high tech, etc.), and what our natural resources can sustain.
    Current situation is a joke.
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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    Drones with Hellfire missiles at the border, is the only thing the Mexican government understands. You'll have a kneejerk reaction, but frankly I'm tired of our people getting shot at. As far as I'm concern, the Mexican government doesn't feel enough fear of the US. It'll be about right, whenever they think of us they quiver a little.
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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Drones with Hellfire missiles at the border, is the only thing the Mexican government understands. You'll have a kneejerk reaction, but frankly I'm tired of our people getting shot at. As far as I'm concern, the Mexican government doesn't feel enough fear of the US. It'll be about right, whenever they think of us they quiver a little.
    So you're basically going flat out pro-fascism?

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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    New Zealand has a pretty good immigration policy to build on.
    Some thoughts for a new policy,
    - must show proof of self reliance, (i.e, employment, savings, etc).
    - higher eduction in needed fields
    - improve migrant farm worker program
    - harsher penalties for illegal entry or overstaying visa
    - harsher penalties for companies that hire illegal immigration

    Today, immigration into the US needs to be based on what our economy needs/support, what skills we need for our future (doctors, engineers, high tech, etc.), and what our natural resources can sustain.
    Current situation is a joke.
    I more or less agree. Although I think the current situation isn't that different than what you describe. The main difference is that we don't have an effective guest worker program. We most definitely do require proof of self reliance, give massive priority to education, and are cracking down far more aggressively on employers than ever before. The number of undocumented immigrants in the US has been falling for 3 years in a row and we've been deporting more people per year under Obama than under any previous president. So, I think you've got the right idea, but I think we're closer to success than you might think.

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    Re: Does America Need A New 21st Century Immigration Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So you're basically going flat out pro-fascism?
    Don't be silly. Use of force at the border isn't fascism. It's called reaching an understanding and the correct level of respect.
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