View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    To all you people who see blood in the water and want to lynch Coach Paterno, argurely the greatest coach in the history of NCAA football (409 wins) he should definitely stay....He committed no crime.....He reported the abuse to the AD which is what is required of him...The AD or his superior notified the police in 1999....If anyone is guilty it is the Police who did nothing.
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    While Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says that her office won't file charges against Joe Paterno for not reporting the alleged child sexual abuse by former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, the 84-year-old coach could eventually face criminal charges for perjury, obstruction of justice and violating the state's Child Protective Services Law. Paterno could also become a defendant in civil lawsuits filed by Sandusky's alleged victims. Those lawsuits could allege that Paterno negligently failed to prevent a third party with whom he had a supervisory relationship (Sandusky) from committing abuse.


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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you can argue that he should step down for moral reasons but you cannot argue that he should be fired because he "didn't do enough"
    Your posts sound to me as if you are in favor of protecting a guy who did little to protect children from a pedophile. Do you really believe that he did enough? If so what would you do if someone told you they saw a child being raped? Would you just have another beer and call it a day?
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Your posts sound to me as if you are in favor of protecting a guy who did little to protect children from a pedophile. Do you really believe that he did enough? If so what would you do if someone told you they saw a child being raped? Would you just have another beer and call it a day?
    I'd ask them why they didn't stop it instead of telling me about it.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    This case is so violently disgusting to me.

    I can't imagine anyone witnessing such an act or being told of such an act and then DECIDING it didn't matter. Then happily going about their lives never giving a **** - fame and fortune! Who gives a **** - just a kid?

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    This case is so violently disgusting to me.

    I can't imagine anyone witnessing such an act or being told of such an act and then DECIDING it didn't matter. Then happily going about their lives never giving a **** - fame and fortune! Who gives a **** - just a kid?

    ****ing pigs.
    apparently Paterno thought it mattered, since he reported it to his boss, who thought it mattered enough to report it to the authorities.

    the real villian in this is the guy who actually saw it happen and did nothing to stop it.

    but since he isn't famous it wouldn't be as sensational a news story so....it doesn't matter
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    apparently Paterno thought it mattered, since he reported it to his boss, who thought it mattered enough to report it to the authorities.

    the real villian in this is the guy who actually saw it happen and did nothing to stop it.

    but since he isn't famous it wouldn't be as sensational a news story so....it doesn't matter
    When I see something as egregious as a child being raped I'd take immediate physical action AND I'd immediately call the authorities.

    NO ONE reported this to the authorities . . .they handled it privately in their 'school' upper-chain which means they did nothing. . . and there's not much mention of who first witnessed it - other than that it was a graduate assistant. Unless I'm missing some news on this.

    Regardless: to know that there are people out there who wouldn't take immediate steps to prevent said activity are disgusting. . .did this child's parents ever know their child was abused? Poor kid - needed help and no one gave a damn.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    apparently Paterno thought it mattered, since he reported it to his boss, who thought it mattered enough to report it to the authorities.

    the real villian in this is the guy who actually saw it happen and did nothing to stop it.

    but since he isn't famous it wouldn't be as sensational a news story so....it doesn't matter
    His boss did not report it to authorities. That was in 2002. A college kid is the scapegoat? No. I do not agree...although it's unfortunate he didn't at least say, "WTF is going on!!!????"

    Oh, and it's not one boy, BTW. Latest I see in print is that eight have come forward. On the radio, I heard 17. What a disaster.

    And Paterno's legacy? He'll always be famous as the guy who, along with his bosses, had a horrific moral lapse. Yeah, tell the boss. Then forget it.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    NO ONE reported this to the authorities . . \.
    I know this is an emotional issue, but that is no reason to resort to falsehood. Paterno told his boss the AD who reported it to the authorities.

    to state that NO ONE reported this is simply untrue
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    So far, there are at least four people under scrutiny for failure to report, all of whom work at the university: Paterno, the head of the athetic department to whom he reported the incident, the dean of the university who also had the incident reported to him, and an assistant coach, who was the original witness. The university board is furious with all of them, and I suspect all of them will soon be out of a job, if not formally charged with a crime.

    As it should be.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I know this is an emotional issue, but that is no reason to resort to falsehood. Paterno told his boss the AD who reported it to the authorities.

    to state that NO ONE reported this is simply untrue
    From this article - para 5 - in the OP it in fact states:
    Sandusky was neither disciplined nor reported to authorities
    If this is a falsehood then by all means - post a new article or factoid with new information so we can correct this egregious error.

    Reporting something 5, 7 or 10 years later is NOT 'reporting it when it happened' - and shouldn't be confused as such.

    This article States:
    Nearly two weeks after the incident, Curley and Schultz met with Sandusky and told him he could no longer bring any Second Mile children onto the campus. But the officials did not alert the police, and Sandusky continued to work as a welcomed member of the Penn State football family.
    And on and on - how many other articles do you think I'll find that states that Sandusky wasn't reported to the authorities immediately upon exposure of his acts?

    That's the whole issue, here - is that these other people are in trouble because they never reported it to the authorities.

    If they had reported it within a reasonable time frame they wouldn't be in trouble for not reporting it.

    So - are you trying to throw them a bone that - well - 'now we know he molested children so they're all exonerated from keeping their mouths shut?'
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