View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The details need to come out. The public knows very little at this point about the true details. I believe that even on a hearsay story he should have reported to the Police. It is more important to protect a child or children than the name of the university. He should step down not because of guilt but because he failed to act in the best interests of a child. Telling the AD is far different than calling the Police which I believe he should have done.
    yeah. I once had the cops surround my house because some nosey nellie nextdoor with "good intentions" thought she was protecting the best interests of a child after she heard my kids running through the house squealing while they chased each other.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so then I guess Paterno's boss should be fired, the AG should be fired, everyone involved should be fired.

    Paterno is a scapegoat in this case. plenty of blame to go around, but everyone is crying for his blood.
    Yes. At minimum, they knew about (or had reason to seriously suspect) a serious crime and did not report it to police. If it's proved any of them covered up the crime, they should be prosecuted.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah. I once had the cops surround my house because some nosey nellie nextdoor with "good intentions" thought she was protecting the best interests of a child after she heard my kids running through the house squealing while they chased each other.
    1.) Not the same thing as a graduate student coming forward to say he witnessed a rape of a child.
    2.) The nosey nellie nextdoor may be a nincompoop (more alliteration), but if she thought something criminal was happening, she should call the police (or go knock on the door, or get to know her neighbors better). The police should respond and use good judgement in evaluating the situation. That's the way it's supposed to work. If the police used bad judgement, I'd condemn them, too. Calling the police when you think something's wrong is not using bad judgement - it's necessary.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    1.) Not the same thing as a graduate student coming forward to say he witnessed a rape of a child.
    since we are all ready to lynch Paterno for not going to the cops.... why didn't this grad student go to the cops? why isn't anyone crying for their head on a platter? why isn't anyone squealing "he should've done more"?

    grad student = witness

    Paterno and everyone above him = acting on hearsay

    so who is really at fault here?
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    since we are all ready to lynch Paterno for not going to the cops.... why didn't this grad student go to the cops? why isn't anyone crying for their head on a platter? why isn't anyone squealing "he should've done more"?

    grad student = witness

    Paterno and everyone above him = acting on hearsay

    so who is really at fault here?
    Yes, the grad student and his parents should have gone to the cops. If you want to fire the grad student, that would be fine, too. The difference is the grad student had nothing to gain by covering it up. And, I'm less likely to hold a student accountable than a man of supposed position and responsibility. The janitor should have reported it. Paterno should have reported it. Campus security should have reported it. Some of them had the ability to stop it. Some only had the ability to tell the cops. Some had something to gain from a cover-up. All have various degrees of culpability. But, not all have positions of authority over a lot of other young men.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Yes, the grad student and his parents should have gone to the cops. If you want to fire the grad student, that would be fine, too. The difference is the grad student had nothing to gain by covering it up. And, I'm less likely to hold a student accountable than a man of supposed position and responsibility. The janitor should have reported it. Paterno should have reported it. Campus security should have reported it. Some of them had the ability to stop it. Some only had the ability to tell the cops. Some had something to gain from a cover-up. All have various degrees of culpability. But, not all have positions of authority over a lot of other young men.
    Paterno reported it up the chain to his boss...how can that be considered "covering it up"? If Paterno had wanted to cover it up, he would've told the grad student "I'll look into it" and then done nothing.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah. I once had the cops surround my house because some nosey nellie nextdoor with "good intentions" thought she was protecting the best interests of a child after she heard my kids running through the house squealing while they chased each other.
    I think the guy that saw a man doing a 10year old boy was being more than a nosy Nellie neighbor. You protect the children and the adults can handle their inconvenience. In a matter like this you call the authorities and ask questions later.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    since we are all ready to lynch Paterno for not going to the cops.... why didn't this grad student go to the cops? why isn't anyone crying for their head on a platter? why isn't anyone squealing "he should've done more"?

    grad student = witness

    Paterno and everyone above him = acting on hearsay

    so who is really at fault here?
    Topic is Paterno, but as I have already said, Paterno is not alone in fault.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I think the guy that saw a man doing a 10year old boy was being more than a nosy Nellie neighbor. You protect the children and the adults can handle their inconvenience. In a matter like this you call the authorities and ask questions later.
    correct, YOU call the authorities. you don't go running to the coach and expect him to do it for you. If you want to hold someone responsible, hold the guy who actually witnessed the act responsible
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Topic is Paterno, but as I have already said, Paterno is not alone in fault.
    the fact that the grad student told Paterno and not the cops is relevent. If you want to blame someone for "not doing more"...blame him
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