View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
  • I have no clue. Fill me in.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Sadly? I think you are right.

    Does anybody know if the fans that went to the game today were wearing more blue or more white? I am just curious as had read that people were asked to wear blue in support of child abuse victims and some were gonna wear white in support of Joe.
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    Obeying a request by university officials to wear blue in honor of the victims in the child-sex abuse scandal involving former assistant Jerry San- dusky, approximately 99 percent of a crowd of 107,903 -- minus some red-clad Cornhusker fans -- showed up wearing blue as opposed to the usual white-out color scheme.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    I've not been following this story too much. But what I can't figure out is how it got dropped after the one guy saw him raping a child in the shower. If it were me finding him you could be positive that there would be plenty of news coverage and debates over whether or not I should be jailed on assault charges. That's assuming they weren't jailing me on manslaughter.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    McQueary should've done something, and morally he acted horribly poorly. But maybe I'm a freak for not viewing this in such a black and white thing, because I can't.

    While not attending Penn State, I've got family that are close with the program in different ways. My Uncle was a graduate assistant under Sandusky and spend amble time around Penn State football, my cousin is a Wide Reciever playing under McQueary shortly.

    Penn State Football is a religion in Happy Valley. Joe Paterno is GOD there. And if Paterno is God, then Sandusky was akin to the Pople to people growing up there.

    McQueary, native of that town, walked in to see what had to be one of the most surreal and shocking things in his life. In the Penn State locker room, holy ground to a former Penn State QB, he watched a man who was #2 to essentially the man who WAS Penn State doing one of the most unspeakable acts ever. A man that he played under, a man whose kids he grew up playing with, a man who he grew up knowing and idolizing, doing a horrific thing.

    For ANYONE whose saying "I'd just march in there and beat his ass, no questions asked" I say BS. Would you have possibly done that? Absolutely, it a possability. However there's a good chance that your brain could've just overloaded on that as well. The pure awestruck, shocking, surreal nature of it would've seemed like he had stepped into the twilight zone, and frankly anyone given that situation with those conditions saying how they'd have acted with certainty is flat out being ridiculous in my mind.

    While I hate that he didn't do anything right then, and I feel for the child, I don't really condemn McQueary for his actions at that moment because I can somewhat understand. I can't imagine what I'd HONESLTY do if I walked into a similar situation seeing my best friends father doing that or someone of similar importance and unexpectedness.

    My issue with him is far more in his actions after that. A week, a month, whatever, when his brain had time to process the information, to realize fully its real and the extent of it, and to at tha tpoin tnot have gone to the cops or even just to continue to have to interact with Sandusky. And even then, again while I'm not saying its moral, the pressure of being a guy who grew up there, who went there, who now coached there, to realize that if you push this you're going to be the guy who brings down Penn State football by going live with this...that's a ton of pressure, and pressure I think that shouldn't have stopped him but again, its why I may be less harsh on him.

    On the flip side, you have Paterno.

    Paterno IS Penn State. If Paterno went to the board and said "Fire so and so" up to and possibly including the President there'd be little doubt in my mind that it'd likely have happened. There hasn't been an AD on that campus in the past 25+ years that wasn't secondary to Joe Paterno. There's likely no one in that town, and few people in that state, that are more recognizable and would have more pull.

    There was no one on that campus that could've had something done if he wanted it done quicker than Joe Paterno. There's no one on that campus who would've felt less pressure over his head for going to the authorities. I feel like more of it falls on Joe not because he's "famous" per se, but because there was no one with more sway and power that could've done something and didn't.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Every one who answered: He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    The LAW requires him to report it to police.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sounds like a copout for McQueary to me. At the very least, no matter how shocked he was, he could have at least yelled "What the hell do you think you're doing?" It's not like he was some naive little teenager. McQueary was a grown ass man (28) and he acted like a little bitch.
    I am not calling him blameless. He didn't handle the moment.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Majority "rule" seems to be a thing of the past...
    Either that or PapaJoes balls have shrunk.
    What happened here was considered to be the norm by a great many...today, we are out for blood..
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Every one who answered: He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    The LAW requires him to report it to police.
    But, how well does Joe P... or anyone , know the law ????
    The incident was reported to the Penn State "authorities"
    What did they do ????

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah, I'm also wondering how this guy goes to sleep at night.
    How did slave owners do it ?
    Or people who espouse the second class status of women...
    They, like Joe, simply did not know any better....
    Which is why man should never "worship" another man...
    Joe as a god around Penn State......ha....he is but a man....

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    McQueary should've done something, and morally he acted horribly poorly. But maybe I'm a freak for not viewing this in such a black and white thing, because I can't.

    While not attending Penn State, I've got family that are close with the program in different ways. My Uncle was a graduate assistant under Sandusky and spend amble time around Penn State football, my cousin is a Wide Reciever playing under McQueary shortly.

    Penn State Football is a religion in Happy Valley. Joe Paterno is GOD there. And if Paterno is God, then Sandusky was akin to the Pople to people growing up there.

    McQueary, native of that town, walked in to see what had to be one of the most surreal and shocking things in his life. In the Penn State locker room, holy ground to a former Penn State QB, he watched a man who was #2 to essentially the man who WAS Penn State doing one of the most unspeakable acts ever. A man that he played under, a man whose kids he grew up playing with, a man who he grew up knowing and idolizing, doing a horrific thing.

    For ANYONE whose saying "I'd just march in there and beat his ass, no questions asked" I say BS. Would you have possibly done that? Absolutely, it a possability. However there's a good chance that your brain could've just overloaded on that as well. The pure awestruck, shocking, surreal nature of it would've seemed like he had stepped into the twilight zone, and frankly anyone given that situation with those conditions saying how they'd have acted with certainty is flat out being ridiculous in my mind.

    While I hate that he didn't do anything right then, and I feel for the child, I don't really condemn McQueary for his actions at that moment because I can somewhat understand. I can't imagine what I'd HONESLTY do if I walked into a similar situation seeing my best friends father doing that or someone of similar importance and unexpectedness.

    My issue with him is far more in his actions after that. A week, a month, whatever, when his brain had time to process the information, to realize fully its real and the extent of it, and to at tha tpoin tnot have gone to the cops or even just to continue to have to interact with Sandusky. And even then, again while I'm not saying its moral, the pressure of being a guy who grew up there, who went there, who now coached there, to realize that if you push this you're going to be the guy who brings down Penn State football by going live with this...that's a ton of pressure, and pressure I think that shouldn't have stopped him but again, its why I may be less harsh on him.
    I have to disagree. I don't care who it is, who you are, what your relationship to them is. If you walk in and witness a grown man raping a 10 year old boy, you just don't turn and walk away. This isn't like McQueary was a 13 y/o who walked in on his step father raping his brother. McQueary was 28 years old and he should have done something....anything other than just turn and walk away.
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