View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
  • I have no clue. Fill me in.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Here's the timeline of events:

    Penn State Scandal: A Timeline Of Abuse And Major Events In The Sandusky Case | Ology

    You'll notice that Sandusky didn't work for Penn State when Paterno found out what happened and you should also notice the same board that now tells us JoPa is to blame also didn't report the information they had to the police. Plus, the police knew this guy was molesting children as far back as 1998. They had a confession and everything and the DA did nothing. Blame the board. Blame the police. Blame the DA. But don't blame the guy that did what he was supposed to do.
    The issue doesn't center around Sandusky's employment status - he didn't have to be a payroll employee. The fact remains that this happened when he had access to the school, he used school campus to perpetrate his crimes and attack his victims, was seen doing so on campus, Paterno and others who were employed by the school knew - because of their decisions Sandusky was never reported like he should have been - he just wasn't allowed to bring children around.

    March 1, 2002: Graduate assistant Mike McQueary​ witnesses Sandusky anally raping Victim 2 in Penn State showers.

    March 2, 2002: McQueary reports the incident to head coach Joe Paterno.

    March 3, 2002: Joe Paterno meets with Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz. Paterno relays to Curley and Schultz what McQueary told him.

    Mid-March 2002: McQueary meets with Curley and Schultz.

    March 2002: Sandusky is banned from bringing children to Penn State's campus. Per Curley's directive, Sandusky's locker room keys are taken. Former President Graham Spanier is aware of the ban.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Here's the timeline of events:

    Penn State Scandal: A Timeline Of Abuse And Major Events In The Sandusky Case | Ology

    You'll notice that Sandusky didn't work for Penn State when Paterno found out what happened and you should also notice the same board that now tells us JoPa is to blame also didn't report the information they had to the police. Plus, the police knew this guy was molesting children as far back as 1998. They had a confession and everything and the DA did nothing. Blame the board. Blame the police. Blame the DA. But don't blame the guy that did what he was supposed to do.
    Poor Paterno has suffered much as these young kids hasn't he?

    We didn't fire him. Penn State did. More than his involvement in this sorry affair I think Penn State needed to do damage control. By firing Paterno they are saying "Look at us, we are cleaning everything from the top to bottom. Really don't think Paterno would be up for the investigation to come.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Poor Paterno has suffered much as these young kids hasn't he?

    We didn't fire him. Penn State did. More than his involvement in this sorry affair I think Penn State needed to do damage control. By firing Paterno they are saying "Look at us, we are cleaning everything from the top to bottom. Really don't think Paterno would be up for the investigation to come.
    Because of his age?

    I've never paid any attention to Penn State football, and I ask because I read a Houston Chronicle sports blog this morning that suggests that hubris would be a significant problem too.

    What do you make of this? Paterno failed Penn State more than any coach has ever failed a school, and that’s not the worst of it. | SportsJustice | a Chron.com blog

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Poor Paterno has suffered much as these young kids hasn't he?

    We didn't fire him. Penn State did. More than his involvement in this sorry affair I think Penn State needed to do damage control. By firing Paterno they are saying "Look at us, we are cleaning everything from the top to bottom. Really don't think Paterno would be up for the investigation to come.
    Right. He was fired by the same board that didn't report what he reported to them. Don't see any hypocrisy there?
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    especially the grad student who actually witnessed the rape and did absolutely NOTHING to stop it. amazes me that so many people are OUTRAGED and want to crucify Paterno for "not doing enough" and yet those same people never even mention McQueary. I guess he isn't famous enough to warrant hatred.
    Oh trust me: I wish them ALL Death. And that includes anybody that is trying to defend alll of these monsters. I do mean ANY.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, grad students (unless you are doogie howser) are at least 22-23 years old. that's a man, not a boy.

    I ask again: why are those so eager to lynch Paterno so equally eager to absolve the one and only person who could have actually stopped the attack?



    sure Paterno didn't do enough, he should have forced McCreary to go to the cops. But McCreary is/was a ****ing gutless coward who stood by and watched a young boy get raped and didn't lift a finger to try to stop it
    McCreary should have killed that sick asshole. I am a female and if I see some stuff like that? I don't care if I may be killed that pervert pedophile will either be major hurt or dead or both. I may die trying but that is a risk I am willing to take.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But Joe doesn't live in any of those 40 states, does he? What he did was entirely legal in the state in which he lived at the time that he did it. If the laws change, they don't become retroactive. You may not like that he didn't do more, but he did what he had to do and anyone criticizing him is just being emotional.
    He has a lawyer now. That tells me all I need to know.

    Anybody defending him is sick. He did what he needed to do? REALLY? The hell he did! He was involved in a cover up of child rape.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    What would you do if you found out about someone you work with who was raping children?
    Based on post in this thread? I am guessing the if he did anything? He would do the least he had to do..
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    It's not that hard. There're a number of free programs which are readily available.
    I didn't know he researched that himself.
    Seems like overkill to wipe it then drop it in the river apart from its laptop. But, there's no telling what his state of mind was and what he thought was necessary I suppose.
    Maybe they are all involved in a big internet kiddie boy porn ring. Maybe he was gonna expose it all or something and they had him killed. I am sure he is dead and suspect it has something to do with all this Penn State cover up stuff.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Right. He was fired by the same board that didn't report what he reported to them. Don't see any hypocrisy there?
    Huh, nothing in the grand jury testimony supports that statement.

    Try again.

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