View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Really, especially McQueary,you don'tsee someone doing this and walk away.
    One hopes that he felt severely threatened somehow. It's hard to imagine a scenario where you could consider not staying at the issue of a ten year old being raped.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    According to the law, he didn't report the accusation properly.

    It's a bad beat, he got caught up in the politics of the university's image and brand, and didn't do what was morally and legally right.

    The program is disgraced. That felt like punishment enough, to go out on a low... but the university wanted to make the ultimate statement.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Everyone should take 10 minutes and read the grand jury indictment. Victims 1-8...

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/Sandusky.pdf

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    One hopes that he felt severely threatened somehow. It's hard to imagine a scenario where you could consider not staying at the issue of a ten year old being raped.
    McQueary, who testified that he saw Sandusky sodomizing a boy in the shower in 2002, has endured similar scrutiny. The university's athletic department released a one-line statement Thursday night saying it would be "in the best interest of all" if the receivers coach didn't attend the season's final home game at Beaver Stadium. The school did not provide details on precisely who threatened McQueary.


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    On ESPN I heard he called his dad and asked what he should do. His dad told him to leave the building. If that is true, he did not act as he should have, and left that boy in harms way. We do know it was the next day before he said anything to his boss, PapaJoe.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If that is true, he did not act as he should have, and left that boy in harms way. We do know it was the next day before he said anything to his boss, PapaJoe.
    I am not sure if there's any part of this disgusting affair that I can wrap my head around. How could you walk away from that? I suspect that isn't the sort of thing that you can unsee and forget about. He had to have memories of that surface from time to time. How can you go through that w/o trying to do what could about it? Was he that afraid of the senior coaches et al?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think he should have been allowed to retire. He didn't do enough, but he's 84 years old with a proud record and he didn't deserve to be shouldered with disproportionate blame. I hate the abuse, but there are so many other decisions in play that it just reinforces the fact that Joe Paterno is a football coach, not a professional counselor and he's also not perfect. He has been the only class act in the whole incident. He hasn't tried to cast blame elsewhere, nor complained about his treatment. He's just tried to get on with life with this huge turd crowding his lane.
    You know what's odd - he could have and should have retired a long time ago. He hung around - they let him hang around - long after his retirement age. If he had retired in the past none of this would really be such a public drama.

    However - him being famous brought this to everyone's attention when it broke rather than keeping it swept under the rug.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    McQueary, who testified that he saw Sandusky sodomizing a boy in the shower in 2002, has endured similar scrutiny. The university's athletic department released a one-line statement Thursday night saying it would be "in the best interest of all" if the receivers coach didn't attend the season's final home game at Beaver Stadium. The school did not provide details on precisely who threatened McQueary.


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    On ESPN I heard he called his dad and asked what he should do. His dad told him to leave the building. If that is true, he did not act as he should have, and left that boy in harms way. We do know it was the next day before he said anything to his boss, PapaJoe.
    Interesting development. I heard yesterday that he was still going to be coaching, either on the sidelines or in the press box.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Everyone should take 10 minutes and read the grand jury indictment. Victims 1-8...

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/Sandusky.pdf

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    That was nauseating.

    So - really - no one ever did anything right except Victim #1's mother - she reported it to the high school at that time and the school fired him and reported him to authorities per incident #1. . . so why

    Curley and Shultz lied their ass off to cover for Sandusky which is worse than Paterno's actions. . . but basically: everyone was at fault - and why didn't Child Protective Services pursue this further earlier than now?

    And I stopped reading at page 7 or something - that's just too twisted and sick for me to read.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Here's the timeline of events:

    Penn State Scandal: A Timeline Of Abuse And Major Events In The Sandusky Case | Ology

    You'll notice that Sandusky didn't work for Penn State when Paterno found out what happened and you should also notice the same board that now tells us JoPa is to blame also didn't report the information they had to the police. Plus, the police knew this guy was molesting children as far back as 1998. They had a confession and everything and the DA did nothing. Blame the board. Blame the police. Blame the DA. But don't blame the guy that did what he was supposed to do.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    McQueary, who testified that he saw Sandusky sodomizing a boy in the shower in 2002, has endured similar scrutiny. The university's athletic department released a one-line statement Thursday night saying it would be "in the best interest of all" if the receivers coach didn't attend the season's final home game at Beaver Stadium. The school did not provide details on precisely who threatened McQueary.


    Mike McQueary On Administrative Leave: Penn State Coach Out Indefinitely


    On ESPN I heard he called his dad and asked what he should do. His dad told him to leave the building. If that is true, he did not act as he should have, and left that boy in harms way. We do know it was the next day before he said anything to his boss, PapaJoe.
    All of this is in the grand jury report. I believe that McQueary was a grad student assistant at the time. I don't wish to be unfair, but considering his current position, I have to wonder how much he has had to "compartmentalize" over the years. Did he believe that what he witnessed was a one-time/one-kid thing? Did he never hear the whispers over the years? Did he "forget"?

    Anyway, Paterno is now gone, and the question now is whether McQueary's administrative leave will become permanent.

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