View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    except in this case they did not "do nothing", they just, according to popular sentiment, didn't do enough.
    In some ways, he did what he should have. In other ways, he should have done more. I can understand why they fired him, but I could see where they would want to. All in all, it was probably best to let him go and try to close it off somehow. If he wasn't fired, the storm that would have surrounded the University would have been ....well, a lot.


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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    What's that old saying? That all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing?

    Man is this incident the PERFECT application of that saying...good one nota

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    true, Sandusky needs to be subjected to the same treatment he gave those boys.
    First he needs to be put in a room for 15 minutes with me and you...just say let us soften him up a little...then send in legions of prison booty bandits...till he stops breathing....sorry folks..I have a total utter aversion for the slime that abuses kids...for years they utterly turned my stomach being near them...they ooze freak and evil out of their pores...and they all have an excuse..

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    In some ways, he did what he should have. In other ways, he should have done more. I can understand why they fired him, but I could see where they would want to. All in all, it was probably best to let him go and try to close it off somehow. If he wasn't fired, the storm that would have surrounded the University would have been ....well, a lot.
    If it comes out that he was told to shutup after he reported it...Paterno needs jail time like everyone aware of this case...as a cop this stinks of a coverup by powerful people...my gut tells me this goes much deeper than just worry about the schools reputation...any intelligent person knows you cant ignore a formal eye witness acct of sodomy on a child..they knew it had to eventually come out and be worse when it did. ...seems theres a sense of fear surrounding this whole sandusky thing...I believe you can trust that the investigators will give this everything they have...cops hate crimes on kids.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Since the body didn't appear like others in the past on that river, the police aren't convinced that it's evident.


    Zaccagni thought it possible that Gricar, who wasn’t a strong swimmer, had jumped from this nearby bridge.
    James: When did you lose your confidence in that particular theory?
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    It's just so weird. And they found his laptop with the hard drive missing, and later revealed he had searched on how to fry one. They did turn a hard drive up but the FBI couldn't recover anything off of it (apparently he researched it well enough).

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    except in this case they did not "do nothing", they just, according to popular sentiment, didn't do enough.
    They didn't do enough. Really, especially McQueary,you don'tsee someone doing this and walk away. Anyone with a moral code lets it continue. And just passing it on, with him still hanging around? No It is not unreasonable to have expected more.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I realize that it is the American way to make "Papa Joe" the scapegoat.
    When things are finally done right, the ones who should be fired are the "authorities" that Paterno reports to.
    The already did.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But Joe doesn't live in any of those 40 states, does he? What he did was entirely legal in the state in which he lived at the time that he did it. If the laws change, they don't become retroactive. You may not like that he didn't do more, but he did what he had to do and anyone criticizing him is just being emotional.
    He did as was required. I have never said he didn't. I would have done the same as he did and called the police as there was a child involved in the incident that was reported to him. Humanity demands that we should as adults protect children from harm. They are helpless in many situations. If you saw a child playing in the street and the parents were discussing something and not watching. Would you tell the parent and hope they responded or pull the child out of the street to protect it from an oncoming car?
    Joe and McQeary left the child in the street to be crush and many other children beyond that one by their inaction.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    that's not what I am saying at all. you are letting your emotions cloud your judgement
    You are saying exactly that. You just want to save Joe even though he did not do all he could to protect the children. Fine with me.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It's just so weird. And they found his laptop with the hard drive missing, and later revealed he had searched on how to fry one. They did turn a hard drive up but the FBI couldn't recover anything off of it (apparently he researched it well enough).
    It's not that hard. There're a number of free programs which are readily available.
    I didn't know he researched that himself.
    Seems like overkill to wipe it then drop it in the river apart from its laptop. But, there's no telling what his state of mind was and what he thought was necessary I suppose.
    I may be wrong.

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