View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
  • I have no clue. Fill me in.

    1 0.89%
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The emotional rush to judgment in this thread is quite fascinating... and a perfect example why emotion should be severely limited, if not entirely eliminated, from legal and non-legal justice.

    I tend to agree with Oscar, though not entirely. The people who say and/or imply that Paterno did nothing are absolutely factually wrong. The question is, did he do enough? Now I read that the DA did hear of it, somehow, and that they chose to do nothing. Yet some people are foaming at the mouth that a DA was contacted instead of the police. As a friend of mine used to say, that's picking bird **** out of horse ****. It's not the military, there is no proper "chain of command", and any charges would have gone through the DA anyway. If the DA thought it worthy, they could have referred it back to the police.

    People are emotional because kids are involved. I get that. Don't let your emotion cloud your otherwise good judgment. Don't be willing to hang 100 people in the hopes you get the relative few who actually are responsible for prolonging the situation. That may feel good in the short run, but that's not justice, either.
    According to the GJ report, informing the DA isn't what PA law requires. They all had a legal obligation to notify the Department of Public Welfare within 48 hours.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    exactly, all this anger directed at Paterno and hardly any directed at the one guy who could have actually done something about it. My question is, how long did the guy wait before he told Paterno about it? I haven't seen a timeline of the events. was it the same day? was it the next day? was it the next week?
    Why should Paterno be excluded from the "anger" ?
    The Grand Jury report has been linked to in this thread if you're interested, it's one of the early posts
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    I think he should have been allowed to retire. He didn't do enough, but he's 84 years old with a proud record and he didn't deserve to be shouldered with disproportionate blame. I hate the abuse, but there are so many other decisions in play that it just reinforces the fact that Joe Paterno is a football coach, not a professional counselor and he's also not perfect. He has been the only class act in the whole incident. He hasn't tried to cast blame elsewhere, nor complained about his treatment. He's just tried to get on with life with this huge turd crowding his lane.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    It just appears that everyone did the least they had to do required by law to cover their own asses and hope that the alleged perpetrator never got caught so the school and all involved didn't get hung out to dry.
    They failed in that even. They did not comply with the law according to the GJ.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    According to the PA law, ( and common sense), everyone who heard about it had a responsibility to inform the appropriate agencies. None of them did.
    wrong. I wish people would stop saying that nobody reported this

    On November 7, Pennsylvania state police Commissioner Frank Noonan said that Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation to report suspected abuse,
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    I do believe that Joe Paterno should most likely retire due to age, not this scandal of which he is not guilty of doing anything other than reporting it to the wrong people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I think he did what he was required by law to do. Whether he stays or goes makes no difference to me, he did what he had to do, arguing that he should have done more is a judgement call, not a legal call.
    Apparently it's not that he reported it to the wrong people, he failed his affirmative legal duty to report it to the right people.
    None of that whole crew did what they were required to do by law.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Apparently it's not that he reported it to the wrong people, he failed his affirmative legal duty to report it to the right people.
    None of that whole crew did what they were required to do by law.
    not according to the state police commissioner
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I know this is an emotional issue, but that is no reason to resort to falsehood. Paterno told his boss the AD who reported it to the authorities.
    That depends on how one defines "authorities." The GJ found that the school did not report it to the people they were legally obligated to report it to.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    If we "fire " him, should we fire 10,000 Catholic priests as well...
    Umm, yes. Why on earth wouldn't we fire and prosecute people who molest children?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes, it was the bare minimum required of him.
    Paterno did the bare minimum of what was required of him, and that was it.
    the Grand jury disagrees with this assessment.
    I may be wrong.

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