View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
  • I have no clue. Fill me in.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Paterno is 85 freakin years old. he has been nothing more than a figurehead at Penn State for at least a decade. This incident happened in '02 when Paterno was 76. McQueary probably had to wake him up from his mornng nap to tell him about the incident. Paterno's partially senile brain leapt into action and did the one thing he could think of, he went and told his boss. He probably then went back to his office and fell back asleep and when someone woke him up at quitting time, he'd probably completely forgotten the whole thing.
    Interesting assessment....
    much like Ronald Reagan, the conservatives favorite..
    The college is displaying its "class" by firing Paterno and letting the "authorities" go scott free...

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    If Paterno had a moral obligation to report the incident to the cops, why didn't McQueary's father (who knew about it 10-12 hours before Paterno) have the same obligation?
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    McQueary was 28 at the time. Sandusky was 58. surely McQueary could have stopped him from butt raping this young boy. but instead he just watched and then went home and told his daddy and then the next day told Paterno.

    another thing no one is mentioning. why the hell isn't anyone screaming for McQueary's father's blood? he knew about it before Paterno and he didn't call the cops either. but i guess he gets a pass because he isn't famous
    True ... why the hell was he not man enough to run in the shower and stop the violent rape of a child and call the police to the crime scene. I agree with you ... who the hell could not stop this?

    I am a slender female and I would call the police and jump that demon who was raping that child. That is not Monday morning quarterback bs ... I have no doubt what my actions would be in that case!

    However ... that wimp went to his "daddy" and once it was in the hands of Paterno and others ... they just like the grad student ... just did bare minimum and went about their life knowing Sandusky had access to more boys and to their beloved luxury football complex.

    They should all be so ashamed. Not one of them should get a pass ...
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Interesting assessment....
    much like Ronald Reagan, the conservatives favorite..
    The college is displaying its "class" by firing Paterno and letting the "authorities" go scott free...
    I would suspect that the college has probably been wanting to get rid of Paterno for quite some time but it is hard to fire a legend (much with Bear Bryant at Alabama). This gave them a reason to do so
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    True ... why the hell was he not man enough to run in the shower and stop the violent rape of a child, call the police to the crime scene. I agree with you ... who the hell could not stop this?

    I am a slender female and I would call the police and jump that demon who was raping that child.

    However ... that wimp went to his "daddy" and once it was in the hands of Paterno and others ... they just like the grad student ... just did bare minimum and went about their life.

    They should all be so ashamed.
    one thing that popped into my diseased brain was "I wonder how long McQueary stood there and watched before he ran home to tell daddy?"
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I remember when I was a grad student. One of the chem professors was so senile (result of years of exposure to mercury vapors) that the board would not allow him to teach classes any more, but they didn't want to risk a lawsuit by firing him. Therefore he was relegated to teaching the freshman chem labs along side us grad student TAs. One semester I taught the same schedule he did. 2-4 lab M-W-F and 6-10 lab T-T. I would have to go to his office and wake him up, lead him down to the lab and get him seated. When his last student finished they would turn off the light and close the door. When I finished, I would go turn on the light and yell at him from across the room (he tended to awaken rather violently and would flail about). once he was awake I would take him down to his office and then call his wife and tell her it was time for him to go home and she would come and pick him up.
    We do not seem to have ther quality of people to be able to kindly tell someone that its time to retire.....And, believe me, this is no easy task...
    But, I must say, if a man is that far "gone", why should any man fear a lawsuit ?????
    Somewhere, we need better people...
    Yelling at some old man is neither kind nor respectful !

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Yelling at some old man is neither kind nor respectful !
    would it have been kinder or more respectful to have left him sitting in the dark? I tried gently waking him up...once...he woke up startled and started flailing about and hit me in the sack. sorry, but once was enough.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    I just have to respond to a lot of the self-righteousness going on here. None of you have any idea what you would have done had you been in McCreary's shoes. We are looking at this with hindsight and detachment. We don't have any relationship to the people, we weren't there in the moment, we didn't experience the shock of what McCreary saw, we have none of the emotions, conflicts and panic that he experienced. If McCreary would not have been the one involved and was looking at this like you and me I would be willing to bet he would say something like "I would have drug him off the kid and kicked his ass". He wasn't brave and decisive and and acted like we wish he would have done. I am disappointed in McCreary and Paterno and a lot of people in this mess. But I believe most of them they are good, honest people. Don't treat with anywhere near the level of hatred and revulsion that we need to reserve for Sandusky.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    he should stay. he went to his boss who went to the authorities who did nothing. If anyone should go or be fired, it is the prosecutor who failed to bring charges. What was Joe supposed to do? take the guy out back and shoot him once the authorities failed to prosecute?
    What would you do if you found out about someone you work with who was raping children?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    We don't have any relationship to the people, we weren't there in the moment, we didn't experience the shock of what McCreary saw, we have none of the emotions, conflicts and panic that he experienced.
    sounds like a copout for McQueary to me. At the very least, no matter how shocked he was, he could have at least yelled "What the hell do you think you're doing?" It's not like he was some naive little teenager. McQueary was a grown ass man (28) and he acted like a little bitch.
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