View Poll Results: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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  • He should stay, he wasn't involved.

    8 7.14%
  • He should stay, he did what his part by reporting it to somebody.

    59 52.68%
  • He should go, he didn't do enough.

    39 34.82%
  • He should go, he's ultimately responsible no matter what.

    5 4.46%
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Of course, he will. That's a contractual obligation. And you're right....it was certainly past time for this guy to move over.
    He has said in past he wants to die down on the field. I am glad it looks like that will not happen and wish him a painful death and hopefully soon.

    Oh and now hearing him called "Papa Joe" gives me the creeps. I have a feeling Papa turned a blind eye to LOTS of messed up stuff and is not the wonderful kind old man some are trying to make him out to be. Hopefully it will all come to light.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

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    After 46 years, the Joe Paterno era ends ‘within days or weeks’

    After 46 years, the Joe Paterno era ends ‘within days or weeks’ - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

    Should Joe Paterno stay or go?
    I do not care how many games he won ... it was directly reported to him that an assistant coach was discovered with a 10 year old boy in the football complex ... hands to shower wall and was was forced to endure anal sex.

    Paterno did not call the police to investigate! Shame on him ...Paterno only requested the asst not bring minors to the football complex.

    Anyone that knew of these shameful crimes and did not report is complicit.

    I am disgusted and sad for humanity. Truly we are doomed when a man with the power and respect Paterno had .... to do the only right and moral action and chose to cover it up and turn his head ... for a football charade. My heart breaks for that little boy.

    Let them all hang their heads in complete shame.

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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I do not care how many games he won ... it was directly reported to him that an assistant coach was discovered with a 10 year old boy in the football complex ... hands to shower wall and was was forced to endure anal sex.

    Paterno did not call the police to investigate! Shame on him ...Paterno only requested the asst not bring minors to the football complex.

    Anyone that knew of these shameful crimes and did not report is complicit.

    I am disgusted and sad for humanity. Truly we are doomed when a man with the power and respect Paterno had .... to do the only right and moral action and chose to cover it up and turn his head ... for a football charade. My heart breaks for that little boy.

    Let them all hang their heads in complete shame.

    especially the grad student who actually witnessed the rape and did absolutely NOTHING to stop it. amazes me that so many people are OUTRAGED and want to crucify Paterno for "not doing enough" and yet those same people never even mention McQueary. I guess he isn't famous enough to warrant hatred.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    He has said in past he wants to die down on the field. I am glad it looks like that will not happen and wish him a painful death and hopefully soon.

    Oh and now hearing him called "Papa Joe" gives me the creeps. I have a feeling Papa turned a blind eye to LOTS of messed up stuff and is not the wonderful kind old man some are trying to make him out to be. Hopefully it will all come to light.
    Yikes. Painful death. Well, I'll be satisfied that his legacy has been destroyed and that he was thrown out on his ass -- not on his terms, but on "ours." Oh, and that hopefully the statute of limitations hasn't passed and that he's charged with "failure to report" in his mandated position...and spends the next few years in the court system defending his "honor." Ha!

    As to McCreary, he's a little bit difference, imo. He was a student. He reported to a bunch of people...and those people failed.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As to McCreary, he's a little bit difference, imo. He was a student. He reported to a bunch of people...and those people failed.


    McCreary actually witnessed the rape, did nothing to stop it but he gets a pass because he reported it. HE FAILED. the only difference is that he isn't high profile and it wouldn't have been as sensational a story to report: "anonymous grad student at Penn State witness child rape and stands idly by while a youung boy is sodomized in the shower.

    it's a bit hypocritical to give McCreary a pass because he reported it and "those" people failed while at the same time vilifying Paterno for reporting it and "those" people failed.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    McCreary actually witnessed the rape, did nothing to stop it but he gets a pass because he reported it. HE FAILED. the only difference is that he isn't high profile and it wouldn't have been as sensational a story to report: "anonymous grad student at Penn State witness child rape and stands idly by while a youung boy is sodomized in the shower.

    it's a bit hypocritical to give McCreary a pass because he reported it and "those" people failed while at the same time vilifying Paterno for reporting it and "those" people failed.
    That's the difference of accountability standards for a man versus a boy.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's the difference of accountability standards for a man versus a boy.
    sorry, grad students (unless you are doogie howser) are at least 22-23 years old. that's a man, not a boy.

    I ask again: why are those so eager to lynch Paterno so equally eager to absolve the one and only person who could have actually stopped the attack?



    sure Paterno didn't do enough, he should have forced McCreary to go to the cops. But McCreary is/was a ****ing gutless coward who stood by and watched a young boy get raped and didn't lift a finger to try to stop it
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, grad students (unless you are doogie howser) are at least 22-23 years old. that's a man, not a boy.

    I ask again: why are those so eager to lynch Paterno so equally eager to absolve the one and only person who could have actually stopped the attack?

    sure Paterno didn't do enough, he should have forced McCreary to go to the cops. But McCreary is/was a ****ing gutless coward who stood by and watched a young boy get raped and didn't lift a finger to try to stop it
    You're right. Gutless coward.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You're right. Gutless coward.
    how could anyone witness such an act and not at least TRY to do something to stop it? scream like a little girl if you have to and get a bunch of people to come running. Do something. don't just stand and watch.
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    Re: Should Joe Paterno stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    especially the grad student who actually witnessed the rape and did absolutely NOTHING to stop it. amazes me that so many people are OUTRAGED and want to crucify Paterno for "not doing enough" and yet those same people never even mention McQueary. I guess he isn't famous enough to warrant hatred.
    This has been thoroughly refuted by multiple people in this thread, and you still bring it up?

    1) McQueary is not famous, Paterno is

    2) No one is not outraged at his actions

    3) You have had this explained before
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