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Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

Are you tired of all things OWS?

  • No! We need 24/7 coverage until the Movement succeeds!

    Votes: 15 21.7%
  • Anti-OWS, but I like arguing about it.

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • Pro-OWS, but I'm getting tired of arguing about it.

    Votes: 9 13.0%
  • Anti-OWS, sick of hearing about it.

    Votes: 22 31.9%
  • Not taking sides, just plain sick of it all.

    Votes: 9 13.0%
  • Other/Rootebega

    Votes: 8 11.6%

  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .
He's as paritsan as other partisans, Hatuey.

Not really. Tigger's probably one of the most reactionary posters I've met on DP. Or maybe he's just the one that's most honest about being a right-wing reactionary.
 
Not really. Tigger's probably one of the most reactionary posters I've met on DP. Or maybe he's just the one that's most honest about being a right-wing reactionary.

To me Tigger honestly says what he feels without being PC/sensitive/sugar-coated. He doesn't seek to appease his ideological enemies.

Tbh it's refreshing. As for Hatuey, since he brought up Apdst and Tigger in such a fun way, he is quite the partisan himself.

In Tigger's case, I don't see how posting your thoughts bluntly on a thread is "reactionary." Usually when I think about reactionary people, they tend to react in an over-exaggerated way, like Kali, for example. That's not necessarily bad, seeing as we're human and all.
 
Not really. Tigger's probably one of the most reactionary posters I've met on DP. Or maybe he's just the one that's most honest about being a right-wing reactionary.

Hold on a second there, SB. Do you have any reason to assume that those of us on the right who don't agree with some of Tigger's more extreme statements are just being less than honest about it?
 
To me Tigger honestly says what he feels without being PC/sensitive/sugar-coated. He doesn't seek to appease his ideological enemies.

Tbh it's refreshing. As for Hatuey, since he brought up Apdst and Tigger in such a fun way, he is quite the partisan himself.

In Tigger's case, I don't see how posting your thoughts bluntly on a thread is "reactionary." Usually when I think about reactionary people, they tend to react in an over-exaggerated way, like Kali, for example. That's not necessarily bad, seeing as we're human and all.

That's not what I mean by reactionary.
 
Hold on a second there, SB. Do you have any reason to assume that those of us on the right who don't agree with some of Tigger's more extreme statements are just being less than honest about it?

No, I don't think that. I just find Tigger to be more blunt even if he comes off sounding more of a douchebag. Like Wake says he doesn't sugarcoat things. I don't know how many other people out there may share Tigger's views, but he's certainly probably the most blunt individual I've encountered who holds such views.
 
tell me, what great things have you achieved? I'd like to know where you stand in relation so i may better judge your ground you stand on.

Let's see, I hold an Associate of Science degree in a technical field. I have held a steady, paying job for all but two weeks of the last sixteen and a half years. I pay my own bills. I pay my taxes. I have never been arrested or given a ticket for a moving violation (2 parking tickets). I don't expect anyone else to support me or to do anything for me. I stand on my own two feet. THAT is the mark of a true American so far as I'm concerned.

how's it going?

If I told you I'd have to kill you, but I'll say this.... The powder is DRY and in HIGH SUPPLY.

Is that from the loss of states rights/soveriegnty or the loss of being able to own slaves?

The loss of State's Rights and the Traditional Values that they espoused.


Actually, you're a bit of a tool - no offense, I suspect you're trying to be. What you've done though, is draw attention from the actions of OWS and put the focus, rather, on your draconian statements.

I am who and what I am. I will not change that for anyone. If that makes me a tool in your eyes, so be it. The next moment I care about what anyone thinks of me will be the first moment I have cared. Anything that takes the attention of people away from those morons is a good thing in my mind. Makes it easier for the cops to put the scumballs back in their proper place.


Not really. Tigger's probably one of the most reactionary posters I've met on DP. Or maybe he's just the one that's most honest about being a right-wing reactionary.

Probably BOTH, Ballin.


No, I don't think that. I just find Tigger to be more blunt even if he comes off sounding more of a douchebag. Like Wake says he doesn't sugarcoat things. I don't know how many other people out there may share Tigger's views, but he's certainly probably the most blunt individual I've encountered who holds such views.

Why wouldn't I be blunt? I have no reservations about my beliefs nor are they negotiable or mutable in my mind. If that makes me sound like a douchebag, so be it.
 
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I think the above link relates well to all things OWS and what it is that they are protesting. It was authored by Citigroup and although it takes a while to read, it does expose some simple truths that Wall Street doesn't desire to talk about. Tired of all things OWS? Hopefully, it is the tip of the iceberg.
 
Let's see, I hold an Associate of Science degree in a technical field. I have held a steady, paying job for all but two weeks of the last sixteen and a half years. I pay my own bills. I pay my taxes. I have never been arrested or given a ticket for a moving violation (2 parking tickets). I don't expect anyone else to support me or to do anything for me. I stand on my own two feet. THAT is the mark of a true American so far as I'm concerned.


So you are an auto mechanic without a sense of adventure. Interesting.



If I told you I'd have to kill you, but I'll say this.... The powder is DRY and in HIGH SUPPLY.


Hi, I am the Greatness that is the Good Reverend. You, mortal, should consider your revolution carefully. Sitting in the woods, Shooting guns, complaining about the man and drinking PBR, isn't training enough to carry out that mission, :pimpdaddy:




The loss of State's Rights and the Traditional Values that they espoused.

What specific "traditional values" did they espouse that you would like to return to? What you are not saying is much more clear than what you are saying.
 
In our nation, things are not nearly as good as they should be...
Maybe the bottom line is that we do not have the quality of people......But as an optimist, I cannot belive this to be so.
And, I must admit, my eyes are glued to the media, too much so...
 
So you are an auto mechanic without a sense of adventure. Interesting.

No, I'm a CADD Designer who makes a decent living and lives a very sensible, basic, and down-to-earth life just like my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc... have done on this continent for a couple hundred years.

Hi, I am the Greatness that is the Good Reverend. You, mortal, should consider your revolution carefully. Sitting in the woods, Shooting guns, complaining about the man and drinking PBR, isn't training enough to carry out that mission, :pimpdaddy:

You are right; that wouldn't be anywhere near enough.

What specific "traditional values" did they espouse that you would like to return to? What you are not saying is much more clear than what you are saying.

All of them, except for slavery based on race? I'm an Ultra-Conservative, Ultra-Traditionalist and always have been. I'd be just as happy living in the 12th Century as I would in the stylized ideal of the 1950's; and much moreso in either one of those days and ages than in the one I had the misfortune to be born into, Rev.
 
No, I'm a CADD Designer who makes a decent living and lives a very sensible, basic, and down-to-earth life just like my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc... have done on this continent for a couple hundred years.

for 16 years? That makes you what? in your late 20's?



You are right; that wouldn't be anywhere near enough.

Then tell me, revolutionary, how are you preparing for the coming war?



All of them, except for slavery based on race? I'm an Ultra-Conservative, Ultra-Traditionalist and always have been. I'd be just as happy living in the 12th Century as I would in the stylized ideal of the 1950's; and much moreso in either one of those days and ages than in the one I had the misfortune to be born into, Rev.


So you are against or for segregation?


against or for slavery?


The 12th century and the 50's were not that similar if I recall correctly. Tell me about your specific traditional values, give me some examples. I am intrigued.
 
for 16 years? That makes you what? in your late 20's?

I'll be 38 next July. I graduated from High School at age 17. College at age 19. I was going on 21 when I got my first "real" job. With the exception of the two weeks after I was laid off in January of 2001, I've been employed full-time doing CAD work that entire time.

Then tell me, revolutionary, how are you preparing for the coming war?

Definitely not by sitting around, drinking beer, and wasting time.

So you are against or for segregation? Against or for slavery? The 12th century and the 50's were not that similar if I recall correctly. Tell me about your specific traditional values, give me some examples. I am intrigued.

Segregation is an issue that should be left to the individual States and Communities to deal with as they see fit. I am against slavery based on race, but have no issue with it for endebtedness, criminal actions, and some other factors, including gender to a certain degree.

I am a strong believer in a Traditional, Patriarchal society based on morality, values, and the ideal of personal responsibility. It is not an egalitarian viewpoint, nor a touchy-feely one. Either you do for yourself, or you go without. It's not about what one WANTS to do, but what one SHOULD do, and severe punishment for those who choose to step outside the bounds of society.
 
Definitely not by sitting around, drinking beer, and wasting time.


By what means then, don't be coy., It sounds like you are a lot of talk.


Segregation is an issue that should be left to the individual States and Communities to deal with as they see fit. I am against slavery based on race, but have no issue with it for endebtedness, criminal actions, and some other factors, including gender to a certain degree.

Do YOU or do YOU not support segregation? Are you a separatist?


I am a strong believer in a Traditional, Patriarchal society based on morality, values, and the ideal of personal responsibility. It is not an egalitarian viewpoint, nor a touchy-feely one. Either you do for yourself, or you go without. It's not about what one WANTS to do, but what one SHOULD do, and severe punishment for those who choose to step outside the bounds of society.


Ambiguous, I am disappointed, I assumed you had this well thought out.
 
Do YOU or do YOU not support segregation? Are you a separatist?

I can honestly say he sounds like a separatist. By saying it is for the states or communities to deal with he is actually saying: Whites should be allowed to live separate from other races.

Here let me translate:

Segregation is an issue that should be left to the individual States and Communities to deal with as they see fit. <----already covered above I am against slavery based on race, but have no issue with it for endebtedness, criminal actions, and some other factors, including gender to a certain degree.<----- He does not want to sound racist but has no problem with slavery based on other things like debt and criminal punishment. In some cases slavery based on "gender" is OK.

So he is basically saying....

He is a white separatist who has guns and ammo for the coming race war. He does not believe in slavery based on race, but in some cases such as gender, it is acceptable.

That sounds like a really messed up individual.
 
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Do YOU or do YOU not support segregation? Are you a separatist?

No, I am not a separatist based on race, though I do support the rights of an individual community to make its own rules, laws, and standards. If I agree with them, I may choose to live or do business there. If I disagree with them I will choose not to live or do business there. I grew up in a town that was 30% minority. I counted among my closest friends many black, hispanic, latino, asian, and even middle eastern young men and women.

I AM however, someone who goes out of his way to avoid dealings with those individuals who do not view the world in the same way that I do. So in that way, yes I could be called a separatist.

Ambiguous, I am disappointed, I assumed you had this well thought out.

I do. I'm just not going to spend large amounts of time trying to explain it to you or anyone else. I've been through my beliefs plenty of times around here. I'm an Isolationist, a Nationalist, a Sexist, and an Idealogue. I always have been and always will be. I do not believe in the idea of political or philosophical debate and never have. It's a waste of time.
 
No, I am not a separatist based on race, though I do support the rights of an individual community to make its own rules, laws, and standards. If I agree with them, I may choose to live or do business there. If I disagree with them I will choose not to live or do business there. I grew up in a town that was 30% minority. I counted among my closest friends many black, hispanic, latino, asian, and even middle eastern young men and women.

Are these folks still your friends? Would you do business with a segragated community?


I AM however, someone who goes out of his way to avoid dealings with those individuals who do not view the world in the same way that I do. So in that way, yes I could be called a separatist.

Then why are you here? btw, how about the Jews. do they view the world the same way as you?


I do. I'm just not going to spend large amounts of time trying to explain it to you or anyone else. I've been through my beliefs plenty of times around here. I'm an Isolationist, a Nationalist, a Sexist, and an Idealogue. I always have been and always will be. I do not believe in the idea of political or philosophical debate and never have. It's a waste of time.


Did you read the domain name of the site you joined. I am perplexed as to your ambitions on a site such as "debate politics" for one whose constitution and makeup decries the idea of.... wait for it.... "debating politics"....


I find you peculiar in nature.
 
Are these folks still your friends? Would you do business with a segragated community?

Those individuals, no. Then again most of them no longer live near where I do. I do keep in touch with a couple of them and have made new friends and acquaintances amongst a wide variety of racial and ethnic groups over the course of my lifetime. It would depend on what sort of segregation.... racial, no. A particular religious or philosophical community, possibly.


Then why are you here? btw, how about the Jews. do they view the world the same way as you?

I'm here simply as a means to maintain contact with the viewpoints and ideas of others. Mostly as a means to "keep one's friends close, and one's enemies even closer."

Religion is wholely unimportant to me, regardless of whether it's Christian, Jew, Muslem, Pagan, etc... It's totally a non-issue in my mind.



Did you read the domain name of the site you joined. I am perplexed as to your ambitions on a site such as "debate politics" for one whose constitution and makeup decries the idea of.... wait for it.... "debating politics"....


I find you peculiar in nature.

You are by no means the only one around here who finds my particular viewpoints and ideology/philosophy/lifestyle to be odd, Rev. Just because I don't engage in debate myself doesn't mean that there aren't things that I can learn from watching other people waste their time debating each other, or from trying to debate me.
 
Those individuals, no. Then again most of them no longer live near where I do. I do keep in touch with a couple of them and have made new friends and acquaintances amongst a wide variety of racial and ethnic groups over the course of my lifetime. It would depend on what sort of segregation.... racial, no. A particular religious or philosophical community, possibly.




I'm here simply as a means to maintain contact with the viewpoints and ideas of others. Mostly as a means to "keep one's friends close, and one's enemies even closer."

Religion is wholely unimportant to me, regardless of whether it's Christian, Jew, Muslem, Pagan, etc... It's totally a non-issue in my mind.





You are by no means the only one around here who finds my particular viewpoints and ideology/philosophy/lifestyle to be odd, Rev. Just because I don't engage in debate myself doesn't mean that there aren't things that I can learn from watching other people waste their time debating each other, or from trying to debate me.




So to summarize it you are a non-racist, authoritarian revolutionary Renaissance man who wished to be born in the 12th century. You joined "debate politics" in order to not debate folks on political topics.


Am I right so far?


What do you think about interracial relationships, would you be down?
 
As I said before, I'm a Traditionalist, a nationalist, an isolationist, and an ultra-Conservative. I believe in the concept of Law and Order above pretty much everything else. I envision the ideal of Revolution not to bring society forward, but to take it BACKWARDS. I am by no means a "Renaissance Man" by any definition of the phrase. I am an Anachronism... a person born out of the time period that he belonged in, which ended for the most part by the middle of the 19th Century and was gone completely by the end of the 1950's. As someone with an interest in history, philosophy, and spirituality I find "people watching" to be an incredibly useful task, whether it is in person or in this sort of medium.

What do you think about interracial relationships, would you be down?

I have no issue with inter-racial relationships if that's what people choose to engage in.
 
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