View Poll Results: Are you tired of all things OWS?

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  • No! We need 24/7 coverage until the Movement succeeds!

    20 20.00%
  • Anti-OWS, but I like arguing about it.

    7 7.00%
  • Pro-OWS, but I'm getting tired of arguing about it.

    10 10.00%
  • Anti-OWS, sick of hearing about it.

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  • Not taking sides, just plain sick of it all.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    It should be re-named to the "The annoy all streets movement."
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Are you thoroughly sick of all things to do with Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Whatever? Pro and anti? Tired of hearing about it, tired of arguing about it, tired of the overhyped mega-partisanship?

    I'm tired of hearing about it and don't want to debate it anymore. Everyone has their entrenched position and just spews venom at the other side. It's pointless.

    What say you? Tired of hearing about it yet?
    I'm not tired of hearing about, although I don't want to hear about it 24/7.

    I'm going to be honest here. The OWS movement really reminds me of the Green Revolution in Iran. Now, in regards to that, I don't mean the political oppression - rather, I mean the obstacles that the populace face.

    During the Green Revolution, I was listening to NPR and they were covering it quite a bit. What I got from that coverage was that the reasons why the Iranians were protesting was because of the following reasons:

    1) about 50% of the Iranian population is under the age of 25
    2) those 20-somethings are mostly college or university educated
    3) they can't get jobs that pay to the level of their education

    So the issues that caused unrest in Iran is causing unrest here in the U.S., and with good reason.

    But I don't see either movement as political - rather, I see them as societal.

    By that, I mean that I don't think most of the Iranians necessarily mind living under an authoritarian religious-based government so long as the government is able to provide the Iranian populace with jobs that provide them with good pay. Likewise, I don't think OWS really mind Wall Street and the big financial firms so long as they provide the U.S. populace with jobs that provide them with good pay.

    These are some serious social issues and they need to be addressed and resolved. If they aren't addressed, then the things that cause such societal unrest don't go away - they remain until they are resolved.

    Also, yesterday on NPR I heard something quite interesting. Someone who worked for a Wall Street firm decided to put on his blue business suit and go down to the OWS camp. He went to the Anarchist Information Center there and he talked to the people there. He said he was able to educate them on Wall Street and they were able to educate him on anarchy.

    Another thing he did was he talked to his non-Wall Street friends and asked them how important the financial firms were to the U.S. economy. They said about 20%. He then asked his Wall Street friends how important the firms were to the economy. They said about 80%. So he pointed out the huge difference in the perceived value of these financial firms.

    So this got me thinking that a really good idea to do would be to get the CEOs of these Wall Street firms and the leading advocates of the Occupy Wall Street movement and put them in a room together and get them to talk to each other. Maybe if both sides were able to talk and communicate directly face-to-face both sides would become sympathetic with each other and both sides can start working together to resolve the issues troubling them both rather than clash with each other.

    After all, a number of corporations are becoming more socially aware and active. I know that one of these is Starbucks. The Starbucks Corporation is getting involved in improving education here in the U.S. They also set up a micro-loan program for farmers in Africa. So some of these big businesses are doing very important social work.

    That is something I'd like to see much more of. Maybe by getting both sides to talk to each other, discuss these issues, and come up with methods of attaining solutions, we can resolve these problems that's causing social unrest.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    That guy is part of the original movement.....
    I was referring more to the select few that actually want fiscal responsibility in either movement, as opposed to the social and political activists that are the most vocal/obnoxious.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Annoy the hell out of Burger King employees and customers?

    Just shows how much they really care about their fellow countrymen. Whata' buncha' asses.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    Just shows how much they really care about their fellow countrymen. Whata' buncha' asses.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I'm not tired of hearing about, although I don't want to hear about it 24/7.

    I'm going to be honest here. The OWS movement really reminds me of the Green Revolution in Iran. Now, in regards to that, I don't mean the political oppression - rather, I mean the obstacles that the populace face.

    During the Green Revolution, I was listening to NPR and they were covering it quite a bit. What I got from that coverage was that the reasons why the Iranians were protesting was because of the following reasons:

    1) about 50% of the Iranian population is under the age of 25
    2) those 20-somethings are mostly college or university educated
    3) they can't get jobs that pay to the level of their education

    So the issues that caused unrest in Iran is causing unrest here in the U.S., and with good reason.

    But I don't see either movement as political - rather, I see them as societal.

    By that, I mean that I don't think most of the Iranians necessarily mind living under an authoritarian religious-based government so long as the government is able to provide the Iranian populace with jobs that provide them with good pay. Likewise, I don't think OWS really mind Wall Street and the big financial firms so long as they provide the U.S. populace with jobs that provide them with good pay.

    These are some serious social issues and they need to be addressed and resolved. If they aren't addressed, then the things that cause such societal unrest don't go away - they remain until they are resolved.

    Also, yesterday on NPR I heard something quite interesting. Someone who worked for a Wall Street firm decided to put on his blue business suit and go down to the OWS camp. He went to the Anarchist Information Center there and he talked to the people there. He said he was able to educate them on Wall Street and they were able to educate him on anarchy.

    Another thing he did was he talked to his non-Wall Street friends and asked them how important the financial firms were to the U.S. economy. They said about 20%. He then asked his Wall Street friends how important the firms were to the economy. They said about 80%. So he pointed out the huge difference in the perceived value of these financial firms.

    So this got me thinking that a really good idea to do would be to get the CEOs of these Wall Street firms and the leading advocates of the Occupy Wall Street movement and put them in a room together and get them to talk to each other. Maybe if both sides were able to talk and communicate directly face-to-face both sides would become sympathetic with each other and both sides can start working together to resolve the issues troubling them both rather than clash with each other.

    After all, a number of corporations are becoming more socially aware and active. I know that one of these is Starbucks. The Starbucks Corporation is getting involved in improving education here in the U.S. They also set up a micro-loan program for farmers in Africa. So some of these big businesses are doing very important social work.

    That is something I'd like to see much more of. Maybe by getting both sides to talk to each other, discuss these issues, and come up with methods of attaining solutions, we can resolve these problems that's causing social unrest.

    Very interesting perspective, Sam. I wonder if it could be managed somehow, without the excessive drama so beloved of the media and certain other sorts. Someone with suitable connections ought to have a go at that.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    Just shows how much they really care about their fellow countrymen. Whata' buncha' asses.
    This is not the 1%. These are bullies.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But you see, that is just lowering the level of discourse just to do it. When people where accusing the Tea party of stupid things and calling them names, I defended the Tea Party. Those who where backing me and thanking my posts then are now the ones attacking OWS for the same crap. When you use the "well Johnny did it so I should to" excuse, instead of arguing what is right no matter what, you are part of the reason political discussion in this country is so vile at times.
    Intersting what we notice, isn't it? You notice that the same people who liked your posts when you defended the TEA now criticizing OWS. I notice the same people that accused the TEA party of engaging in "violent rhetoric" and being potentially violent give OWS a complete pass. Really, though, what is OWS being accused of that isn't true? Are you telling me there is nothing OWS has engaged in that cannot be legitimately criticized?

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    That guy is part of the original movement.....
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    That guy is a ****ing nutball.

    I couldn't listen past 1:17... I think I threw up in my mouth just a little.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    I support the movement. Am part of the movement.


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