View Poll Results: Are you tired of all things OWS?

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  • No! We need 24/7 coverage until the Movement succeeds!

    20 20.00%
  • Anti-OWS, but I like arguing about it.

    7 7.00%
  • Pro-OWS, but I'm getting tired of arguing about it.

    10 10.00%
  • Anti-OWS, sick of hearing about it.

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  • Not taking sides, just plain sick of it all.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    What I am totally sick of hearing is everyone whining.

    Both for and against and beyond.

    Still want to see them out there, but really wish they had a clear message that was not being politically twisted, and actually was precisely directed at the corporate/Govt connection, and how this relationship is both bankrupting and destroying our country.

    Maybe we need an OWS+DC protest so that the direct connection between wall street/corporate America and DC can be protested.

    Then again maybe we need to realize that protesting that connection is in no way the same as being anti capitalist, or that if you do agree that legislators and CEO's should not be in collusion in any way you are not anti anything except maybe against what is the real cause of our problems.

    What I honestly do not get is how many people including individuals, the media, politicians and even community organizers have twisted these protests to mean so many different things just to fit into their agendas, and also how so many of us buy into all the BS.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Nope, I'm not sick of it. I'm tired of explaining to people that generalizations are illogical, that I can see that their attempts to just 'discuss' ideas are really just attempts to smear the movement and that people who are accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. I'm also a bit a tired of dealing with people believe what they want to believe rather than examining facts.

    But I'm not sick of discussing the ideas behind the movement and it's progress, which doesn't really ever happen enough for me to get sick of it. The only problem is that discussion around OWS has revolved around "X person did something 'bad' so let's talk about it" when the discussion could be about the validity of civil disobedience or whether or not OWS has a point and other more intellectual topics, but those topics seem to be far above the heads of those who start the most threads on OWS.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nope, I'm not sick of it. I'm tired of explaining to people that generalizations are illogical, that I can see that their attempts to just 'discuss' ideas are really just attempts to smear the movement and that people who are accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. I'm also a bit a tired of dealing with people believe what they want to believe rather than examining facts.

    But I'm not sick of discussing the ideas behind the movement and it's progress, which doesn't really ever happen enough for me to get sick of it. The only problem is that discussion around OWS has revolved around "X person did something 'bad' so let's talk about it" when the discussion could be about the validity of civil disobedience or whether or not OWS has a point and other more intellectual topics, but those topics seem to be far above the heads of those who start the most threads on OWS.
    That might be on "both" sides. Those defending Civil Disobedience, and this civil disobedience give us only names: King, Gandhi, Thoreau and that's it.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nope, I'm not sick of it. I'm tired of explaining to people that generalizations are illogical, that I can see that their attempts to just 'discuss' ideas are really just attempts to smear the movement and that people who are accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. I'm also a bit a tired of dealing with people believe what they want to believe rather than examining facts.

    But I'm not sick of discussing the ideas behind the movement and it's progress, which doesn't really ever happen enough for me to get sick of it. The only problem is that discussion around OWS has revolved around "X person did something 'bad' so let's talk about it" when the discussion could be about the validity of civil disobedience or whether or not OWS has a point and other more intellectual topics, but those topics seem to be far above the heads of those who start the most threads on OWS.
    I'm sympathetic to OWS. I remind all that in the beginning the Mass Media did not want to cover this story. Now it makes news but by the same people who did not want to cover it, so what they may choose to write is suspect because of their previous position, that amounted to censorship by omission. You can publicize all the good points or all the bad points. With agent provocateurs working inside the OWS and for whom (?????) the details get twisted. OTOH, they are protesting on Wall Street, so banks and big money are still the targets and, in my opinion, rightfully so. I don't really see the movement asking for freebies, just stop helping the rich get richer to the detriment of the majority.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    OWS-sympathizer

    sick of talking about it

    sick of all the coverage of the people participating and their actions rather than the message about what is wrong with our political system. Same thing that happened with all the nigger signs at Tea Party rallies, when there is a legitimate concern about our debt.

    That's why I haven't really posted about anything besides sports the past couple of days. All the new threads are all about OWS and boring as ****.
    They are all the same thing. Someone posts some story of a woman/man doing something then the OP yells about the dirty mob. Someone posts "well, you can't say a whole group is represented by an individual" and it devolves into "Tea party this....socialism/communism....message....OWS hates babies and women". Boooring. You went into one of those threads you've been in them all.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Are you thoroughly sick of all things to do with Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Whatever? Pro and anti? Tired of hearing about it, tired of arguing about it, tired of the overhyped mega-partisanship?

    I'm tired of hearing about it and don't want to debate it anymore. Everyone has their entrenched position and just spews venom at the other side. It's pointless.

    What say you? Tired of hearing about it yet?
    I do not really care about them.Although I do find it funny that many of these people are well off and most likely referred to tea party republicans as tea baggers, made accusations racism and used a couple of clips or two to try to demonize the whole tea party while videos of OWS don't represent the whole OWS movement. I think it will be funny to see if these guys will stick around during winter in New York and other places that get cold as **** during the winter. Although the whole OWS does distract from real news much like celeb garbage distracts from real news.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    I'm sick and tired of hearing about all the useful idiot's highjinks. I'd much rather hear about those behind the idiots. The ones calling the shots. But the media...and the people on this forum...don't seem to want to talk about them.

    Oh, well.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    I'm on the fence about the OWS but from what I've seen they're a rabble of troublemakers. They should police themselves better or be known as fools.

    And yes, I'm sick of it.

    Let's get back to bickering about other continuous/divisive issues.

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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    It was fun for awhile pointing out the hypocrisy of the Tea Partiers attacking OWS in the same way they bitched about being attacked(some tea partiers, not all). I have nothing against OWS beyond what I have against the Tea Party(thinking complex things are simple and being basically unrealistic), and think of the two groups almost exactly the same. I am tired of people who feel the need to make multiple threads a day about trivial **** and think that they are making some kind of point.
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    Re: Thoroughly sick of all things Occupy? OWS?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nope, I'm not sick of it. I'm tired of explaining to people that generalizations are illogical, that I can see that their attempts to just 'discuss' ideas are really just attempts to smear the movement and that people who are accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. I'm also a bit a tired of dealing with people believe what they want to believe rather than examining facts.

    But I'm not sick of discussing the ideas behind the movement and it's progress, which doesn't really ever happen enough for me to get sick of it. The only problem is that discussion around OWS has revolved around "X person did something 'bad' so let's talk about it" when the discussion could be about the validity of civil disobedience or whether or not OWS has a point and other more intellectual topics, but those topics seem to be far above the heads of those who start the most threads on OWS.
    Hear, hear.
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