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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    I would prefer a standard 401k for them. I'd be ok with matching funds, but the same percentages and rules and such that I get.

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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    their wages, benefits, and job security should be tied to the national average.

    make congress a "right to work" zone, in other words.

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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    I think they should just get Social Security retirements from their Congressional jobs. If they want to buy separate pension plans, that's fine. They should also be covered by the same health insurance as you and I, their constituents. How can they actually represent us unless they live in the same fishbowl that we do. Also they should recieve the same average National wage as the average constituent. Build dormitories so they can live away from home. Can the perks and move into mainstream life, same as us.

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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think they should just get Social Security retirements from their Congressional jobs. If they want to buy separate pension plans, that's fine. They should also be covered by the same health insurance as you and I, their constituents. How can they actually represent us unless they live in the same fishbowl that we do. Also they should recieve the same average National wage as the average constituent. Build dormitories so they can live away from home. Can the perks and move into mainstream life, same as us.
    I don't begrudge them the salaries they make. In spite of the perks they set for themselves, it is still a very stressful and difficult job that the average person would be unable to do. I just think the perks should be lessened and/or eliminated.

    The dormitory suggestion is one I have thought of before and I am all for that. First, they should be traveling to Washington as a temporary visitor, not living there. Second, it takes away the excuse for some of the perks they get. And, if someone wants to live elsewhere on their own dime, that's fine.

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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    1) They should be reduced.
    2) Congressmen should have to pay more of their own money into it.
    3) Senators and Congressmen are under the same rules against insider trading as their staffs are.

    Remember, Congressmen only get these pensions if they do 20 years of public service. That's a lot of years to devote, and they should get some kind of plan for it. After all, not every member of Congress is a millionaire.

    However, members of Congress are not under rules against insider trading. While making laws regarding that kind of stuff, they are still allowed to use it when buying or selling stocks.

    However, their staff members who have access to the same information aren't. Which gives members of Congress an incredibly undue advantage regarding the stock market.

    So I'd rather Congressmen have pensions than allow them to do insider trading.
    Here's a brief description of congressional pension. Personally, I don't want ANY elected official in office after 8 years. Period. Pension should be of little concern for those of you who don't want a professional governing class. I no longer vote for the incumbent. It only encourages them. Vote the bastards out. Unfortunately most of America is too partisan to affect any real change in government.

    Congressional pension is a pension made available to members of the United States Congress. Members who participated in the congressional pension system are vested after five (5) years of service. A full pension is available to Members 62 years of age with 5 years of service; 50 years or older with 20 years of service; or 25 years of service at any age. A reduced pension is available depending upon which of several different age/service options is chosen. If Members leave Congress before reaching retirement age, they may leave their contributions behind and receive a deferred pension later.










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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    to OP:

    That's why people run for office. Once their in, they know they are set for life.
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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    ^^

    Quiz: Which two congressmen don't participate in congressional pension?



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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by stsburns View Post
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    That's why people run for office. Once their in, they know they are set for life.
    I'm cynical, but I'm not that cynical. I believe that the vast majority of people who get into politics originally get in because they actually do care deeply and think that they can make positive change. I think they are corrupted after they are in, and that it happens slow enough that they don't even realize it, while others on the outside looking in can see the transformation.

    I also think that most politicians are corrupted more by the power than they are the money, though the money is a nice little secondary benefit also.

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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    congressional benefits and wages are one of the things I think should be left for the public, by vote, to decide.

    some generations would be willing to hand out generous benefits for congress, other may not be so generous...
    I'm not big on allowing public servants to dictate their benefits to those whom are paying for them.

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    Re: Should congressional pensions be cut or eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    congressional benefits and wages are one of the things I think should be left for the public, by vote, to decide.

    some generations would be willing to hand out generous benefits for congress, other may not be so generous...
    I'm not big on allowing public servants to dictate their benefits to those whom are paying for them.
    I agree. I can not go to my boss and tell him this is my pay and benefits from now nor can most other employees.Elected officials should be no different. They like all other employees on the face of the planet should have to ask their bosses IE we the tax payers for raises and benefits.
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