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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is anybody really naive enough to believe that lack of prosecution/conviction is somehow proof of innocence?

    And spare me the "innocent until proven guilty" myth crap.
    Ok, your guilty of "you name it". We can start from their in all of your cases.
    You may not like our system, but until it changes it what we have to work with. It when we selectively choose to not apply the current law standard that makes it a week case in debating.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Discuss.
    Great guy.

    If only we had more people like him we'd have less crime overall.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Apario is innocent until proven guilty. I'll not call him a criminal until it is proven in a court of law. The point is that his office has engaged in numerous public acts of corruption for years under his watch and the only defense against his complicity is being unaware of what was going on. If Arpaio is innocent he is incompetent, if guilty he is a criminal. Either way, he is not fit to lead the Sheriff office.
    Funny. most Maricopa county voters don't agree with you. He has won every election to date.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The FBI did this same type of investigation not to long ago. Again, last I heard the FBI had cleared him of those charges. Just because Obama targets him again doesn't mean squat.
    If the federal government investigates you. There's a good chance that it means something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I already addressed this in post #23.
    There should not be a culture of corruption within police forces. Trust is important, but so is serving the public good.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Same way Obama says he knew nothing or was not involved in Fast and Furious. Obama claims he will get to the bottom of it. Sherriff Joe has taken action to correct deficiencies in his office. 30 some have lost jobs.
    So let me ask, if Sherrif Joe as a Democrat, would he get a pass like Obama and Holder?
    Until Joe is convicted in a court of law, he is innocent. I will even give Obama and Holder that much. Either way, you willing to apply the same standard to Obama and Holder, that is they are incompentent?
    Don't deflect. I think Fast and Furious shows profound incompetence, but we aren't talking about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Funny. most Maricopa county voters don't agree with you. He has won every election to date.
    So what if he's popular? That doesn't make him good. It just means most voters think that he's good.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    If the federal government investigates you. There's a good chance that it means something.



    There should not be a culture of corruption within police forces. Trust is important, but so is serving the public good.



    Don't deflect. I think Fast and Furious shows profound incompetence, but we aren't talking about that.



    So what if he's popular? That doesn't make him good. It just means most voters think that he's good.
    Good is subjective. Your definition for a LE may differ from mine.
    Not trying to deflect. Mearly pointing out that some use double standards for debating.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    So what if he's popular? That doesn't make him good. It just means most voters think that he's good.
    But - he's not good . . . because you don't think he's good?
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    But - he's not good . . . because you don't think he's good?
    The man wanted to set up checkpoints all over his county just to stop cars and search them for drugs. He has no regard for constitutionality, just an authoritarian nutjob in favor of an ultra police state.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Funny. most Maricopa county voters don't agree with you. He has won every election to date.
    Hey Galileo, most of the people in the world disagree with you.

    Appeals to population are so silly, on top of being fallacious tripe.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    The man wanted to set up checkpoints all over his county just to stop cars and search them for drugs. He has no regard for constitutionality, just an authoritarian nutjob in favor of an ultra police state.
    So that makes him a bad person? No one's perfect. He has a few questionable views but so does everyone.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    If the federal government investigates you. There's a good chance that it means something.
    Yeah, could mean lots of things. Could mean lots of people that have an agenda complained enough that something public had to be done. Could mean that powerful people (like Obama) are pushing thier own agenda also. Lots of innocent people have been persecuted just because of thier beliefs before and will be again in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    There should not be a culture of corruption within police forces. Trust is important, but so is serving the public good.
    There should not be a lot of things in this world. But they exist. But if we live our lives suspecting everyone and never trusting anyone then we might as well throw in the towel as human beings right now.
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