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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Obama administration targets Arpaio - Phoenix Business Journal



    The judicial system is working on the case. If Arpaio is innocent, it would still show incompetence. How could he not know the corruption being carried out by his direct subordinate?
    "Plausible deniability", lots of politicians use it as an excuse....every good crook has a subordinate to take the fall when the stuff hits the fan.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    The FBI did this same type of investigation not to long ago. Again, last I heard the FBI had cleared him of those charges. Just because Obama targets him again doesn't mean squat.


    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    The judicial system is working on the case. If Arpaio is innocent, it would still show incompetence. How could he not know the corruption being carried out by his direct subordinate?
    I already addressed this in post #23.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

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    The judicial system is working on the case. If Arpaio is innocent, it would still show incompetence. How could he not know the corruption being carried out by his direct subordinate?[/QUOTE]

    Same way Obama says he knew nothing or was not involved in Fast and Furious. Obama claims he will get to the bottom of it. Sherriff Joe has taken action to correct deficiencies in his office. 30 some have lost jobs.
    So let me ask, if Sherrif Joe as a Democrat, would he get a pass like Obama and Holder?
    Until Joe is convicted in a court of law, he is innocent. I will even give Obama and Holder that much. Either way, you willing to apply the same standard to Obama and Holder, that is they are incompentent?
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Is anybody really naive enough to believe that lack of prosecution/conviction is somehow proof of innocence?

    And spare me the "innocent until proven guilty" myth crap.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is anybody really naive enough to believe that lack of prosecution/conviction is somehow proof of innocence?
    Until he has been convicted all the claims against him by scumbag sympathizers are nothing more than just claims.Seeing how these scumbag sympathizers seem to have a grudge against Sheriff Joe Arpaio then all the claims against him are suspect. Because you can say he did this and he did that but it doesn't mean squat until it has been proven in a court of law.

    And spare me the "innocent until proven guilty" myth crap.

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    Coffin v. United States, 156 U.S. 432 (1895), was an appellate case before the United States Supreme Court in 1895 which established the presumption of innocence of persons accused of crimes.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is anybody really naive enough to believe that lack of prosecution/conviction is somehow proof of innocence?

    And spare me the "innocent until proven guilty" myth crap.
    Apario is innocent until proven guilty. I'll not call him a criminal until it is proven in a court of law. The point is that his office has engaged in numerous public acts of corruption for years under his watch and the only defense against his complicity is being unaware of what was going on. If Arpaio is innocent he is incompetent, if guilty he is a criminal. Either way, he is not fit to lead the Sheriff office.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is anybody really naive enough to believe that lack of prosecution/conviction is somehow proof of innocence?

    And spare me the "innocent until proven guilty" myth crap.
    Well in that case I claim that you stole 10 million dollars from me. By your logic you are guilty. Give me my money back!
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Apario is innocent until proven guilty. I'll not call him a criminal until it is proven in a court of law. The point is that his office has engaged in numerous public acts of corruption for years under his watch and the only defense against his complicity is being unaware of what was going on. If Arpaio is innocent he is incompetent, if guilty he is a criminal. Either way, he is not fit to lead the Sheriff office.
    Underlined: agreed. But gotta prove he is first.

    Bold: Unless his suborinates commited crimes overtly there is no reason to believe that anyone, much less Arpaio, would have caught them at thier crimes if they worked in the same department. That whole trust issue ya know.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Sheriff Joe is a Patriot does his job better than most.

    From what I cab tell the only people who don't like him are criminals and cry baby weaklings who don't stand for law and order.

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    Sherrif Joe likes pink panties.
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