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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Arpaio is a complete disaster. Contrary to what the news media says, the real action is not in his jail or immigration policy, but in local corruption. Joe's office has engaged in blatantly abusive behavior going back more than a decade. You get misspent taxpayer payer dollars, trumped up charges on political enemies, illegal campaign funding and ethical violations all over the place. Arpaio's subordinates and associates have already been dismissed and are now before the court. Arpaio is now at the stage where he switches between claiming he doesn't remember or saying it was all his underlings fault. I do believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. However, the evidence against the Sheriff's office is clear. Joe was either complicit or is so hideously incompetent he didn't notice rampant corruption among his direct subordinates.
    So why isn't he in jail?
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Thats basically it. Scumbag sympathizers do not like him so every accusation and negative rumor about the man they see as true. Funny how these scumbag sympathizers accuse him of doing all this stuff but he hasn't been convicted yet.
    The only person to bring this up in this thread are his defenders. My dislike of him doesn't stem from enforcing immigration laws. It comes from crapping on the Constitution and either being very corrupt or very incompetent.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    The only person to bring this up in this thread are his defenders. My dislike of him doesn't stem from enforcing immigration laws. It comes from crapping on the Constitution and either being very corrupt or very incompetent.
    With all this massive badness, why hasn't the State Attorney General investigated?
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    "I don't remember" , or pushing it off on subordinates and saying he wasn't aware, does not get him off the hook, IMO. In fact, it just makes him look not in control of his own department and/or incompetent... which is actually worse than being corrupt.



    How does a not liking the way things are done warp the most absolute opposite extreme of "nice retreat"?
    Similar to what Obama does inregards to Fast and Furious. Let Holder take the blame.

    So if you don't like what Joe A runs his jail, you either want harsher conditions or less harsher. Which is it? That is why I stated retreat for prisoners must be the choice. Joe A does a good job on jails given the constraints the county supervisors place on him
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So why isn't he in jail?
    The wheels of justice move at a goddamned glacial pace. It took 6 months after the Munnel memo to get Hendershott fired and another 6 months to get Hendershott to testify before the court.

    With all this massive badness, why hasn't the State Attorney General investigated?
    It has, along with the FBI and DOJ.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    The only person to bring this up in this thread are his defenders. My dislike of him doesn't stem from enforcing immigration laws. It comes from crapping on the Constitution and either being very corrupt or very incompetent.
    How has he crapped on the Constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    It has, along with the FBI and DOJ.
    And last I heard they have never found Joe to be in violation of anything that would send him to jail.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    He is an ass, but the voters prefer him to those among us who think that we can change human behavior by rewarding them for breaking the law. Surely treating them worse than we treat our troops in the middle east is acceptable?
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    He is an ass, but the voters prefer him to those among us who think that we can change human behavior by rewarding them for breaking the law. Surely treating them worse than we treat our troops in the middle east is acceptable?
    They probably get treated better since there is no threat of road side bombs or IEDs and they get a daily shower and hot meal.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Good guy, or bad guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How has he crapped on the Constitution?
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    And last I heard they have never found Joe to be in violation of anything that would send him to jail.
    The judicial system is working on the case. If Arpaio is innocent, it would still show incompetence. How could he not know the corruption being carried out by his direct subordinate?
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