View Poll Results: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

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  • Very important.

    5 15.63%
  • Somewhat important.

    12 37.50%
  • Usually not important, unless the VP is a total bonehead.

    10 31.25%
  • Not importantl.

    3 9.38%
  • Other (please clarify).

    2 6.25%
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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    oh, hell no
    mccain could not draw a crowd in a grocery store (literally) until he selected palin to be his running mate
    had he not insisted 'the fundamentals of the economy are sound' as the economy was melting down, he - AND she - would have won the '08 election
    palin made that election mccain's to lose ... and he lost it
    Actually, McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his VP helped me decide not to vote for him.
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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The VP has very little enumerated power, but can and at times does wield significant influence and can at times get things done that the president can't. Biden and his friend McConnell where the chief architects of the deal to raise the debt ceiling as one example of just how much a VP can do. Cheney was a major player in US policy during the Bush years. Gore did a ton of work for Clinton. And so on.
    Cheney was atypical, I think. His influence was substantial by (Bush's) choice.

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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Cheney was atypical, I think. His influence was substantial by (Bush's) choice.
    I absolutely cannot prove this, but I think Cheney was atypical in that it was reported how much influence he had. I think VPs have more influence than we think, if just by being close to the president so much.
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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Extremely unimportant. The VP has no power, and the chances that they will replace the President are negligible.
    Not quite true, as the President can bestow on the VP powers to represent him. This means that the VP has whatever executive powers the President gives him.

    After all, Dick Cheney was a very active VP under GWB. Also, the VP is also the President of the Senate. Dick Cheney took advantage of that for procedural issues in the Senate despite times when the Democrats had a majority.
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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I absolutely cannot prove this, but I think Cheney was atypical in that it was reported how much influence he had. I think VPs have more influence than we think, if just by being close to the president so much.
    I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. At the least, Cheney certainly was more public and vocal about his job.

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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    The VP is very important in my opinion, not because the VP has a lot of power, but because the choice of VP says a lot about the presidential candidate. The president chooses the VP as his(her) partner, his confidant, his friend, his successor. A poor choice of VP tells the public that a candidate makes poor decisions.

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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Not quite true, as the President can bestow on the VP powers to represent him. This means that the VP has whatever executive powers the President gives him.
    ...Which goes back to the fact that the only important choice is the one at the top of a ticket.

    The VP is not going to do anything that their boss wouldn't want them to.

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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Extremely unimportant. The VP has no power, and the chances that they will replace the President are negligible.

    As for those who are saying that Sarah Palin hurt McCain - you are vastly underestimating how reluctant conservatives were to vote for the man. If it weren't for Palin, many Republicans would have stayed home. Ultimately, she helped him more than hurt him - most of the people who hated her would have voted for Obama either way. McCain's poll numbers greatly rose when he picked her, and did not subside until the financial crisis (after that, any Republican candidate would have been a sacrificial lamb, even one as moderate as McCain).
    I hear people say this and I can only answer for the people I know but every rep that didnt vote rep stated her as the reason does that make it true for all reps, of course not im just saying i have no reason to believe Palin HELPED at all. She was good at RALLYING the troops but no to get herself in the white house, theres a big difference. I also know people that voted for obama that werent going to vote at all because of her, again just what "i" experienced.
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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Extremely unimportant. The VP has no power, and the chances that they will replace the President are negligible.

    As for those who are saying that Sarah Palin hurt McCain - you are vastly underestimating how reluctant conservatives were to vote for the man. If it weren't for Palin, many Republicans would have stayed home. Ultimately, she helped him more than hurt him- most of the people who hated her would have voted for Obama either way. McCain's poll numbers greatly rose when he picked her, and did not subside until the financial crisis (after that, any Republican candidate would have been a sacrificial lamb, even one as moderate as McCain).
    No, I completely disagree with you here. McCain lost the votes of a lot of people were closer to the center than he would have had he picked someone legitimate. I don't think anyone who notes Palin's negative impact on McCain thinks the Palin choice has so much an impact on conservatives more to the right. On the contrary, we're pointing to the moderates and 'slightly conservative people that McCain lost. That said, he would have lost regardless of who he picked, but picking Palin made it worse.

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    Re: How important is the VP candidate in your Presidential election decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I hear people say this and I can only answer for the people I know but every rep that didnt vote rep stated her as the reason does that make it true for all reps, of course not im just saying i have no reason to believe Palin HELPED at all. She was good at RALLYING the troops but no to get herself in the white house, theres a big difference. I also know people that voted for obama that werent going to vote at all because of her, again just what "i" experienced.
    I was going to vote McCain right up until he picked her, then I voted against him. Palin only energized people who were likely to vote for McCain anyhow, she didn't actually do anything that a more credible VP candidate couldn't. Well, she did cost him the election, I guess that's something.
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