View Poll Results: How much do sexual harassment claims against Cain affect your opinion of his campaign

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  • It doesn't change my opinion at all.

    27 69.23%
  • It changes my opinion a little.

    8 20.51%
  • It changes my opinion a lot.

    4 10.26%
  • It toally changes my opinion of his candidacy.

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    See I'm the direct opposite, there's literally no chance of me voting for Obama, so whoever is the nominee is irrelevant. My vote is anti-Obama not pro-GOP candidate.
    And this is why the parties are the way they are now. Every time you vote for a McCain, Romeny or some other RINO you basically giving the go ahead for republicans to become more and more liberal.The candidate you vote for should get your vote because you believe he is the right man for the job and shares most of your views, not because you do not want the other guy to win. I do not think the democrats and republicans became they way they are overnight, It was because of lazy people voting straight party not paying attention to what the candidates actually stand for and people with the idiotic mentality that their party is good and the other party is evil regardless of how ****ed up their candidate is. If you are going to vote for Cain then he should get our vote because you actually believe he is the right man for the job and he shares most of your views(not views he claims to share).
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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And this is why the parties are the way they are now. Every time you vote for a McCain, Romeny or some other RINO you basically giving the go ahead for republicans to become more and more liberal.
    I can't change the system. And I sure as hell don't want to give a vote to someone who I know already supports 0% of what I know and believe will help this country and I won't just NOT vote which is the same as voting for Obama and the Democrats.

    It's just the lesser of two evils....
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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And this is why the parties are the way they are now. Every time you vote for a McCain, Romeny or some other RINO you basically giving the go ahead for republicans to become more and more liberal.The candidate you vote for should get your vote because you believe he is the right man for the job and shares most of your views, not because you do not want the other guy to win. I do not think the democrats and republicans became they way they are overnight, It was because of lazy people voting straight party not paying attention to what the candidates actually stand for and people with the idiotic mentality that their party is good and the other party is evil regardless of how ****ed up their candidate is. If you are going to vote for Cain then he should get our vote because you actually believe he is the right man for the job and he shares most of your views(not views he claims to share).
    But, isn't voting for the "lesser of two evils" also voting for the candidate who shares *more* of your views, if not most?

    Disclaimer: I do not share the "lesser of two evils" point-of-view, btw, just asking the question in an intellectual sense.

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I can't change the system. And I sure as hell don't want to give a vote to someone who I know already supports 0% of what I know and believe will help this country and I won't just NOT vote which is the same as voting for Obama and the Democrats.

    It's just the lesser of two evils....
    See, I feel honestly the same, only in the opposite.

    So far, the Republican candidates (for the most part) have expressed themselves negatively (from my position on those issues) on some very big issues for me (crappy tax plans, which also seem to be their main economic plans, most supporting an anti-SSM amendment, or there are things they have done or have said that put me off to them). These are the things that make me way more willing to vote for Obama rather than a GOP candidate this next election. I will say that Romney and definitely Huntsman would likely not get me to vote for Obama, but probably some 3rd Party candidate instead. Huntsman I might even vote for, but I highly doubt he will get the nom.

    There really isn't a party that suits me. I have mixed views on pretty much all major issues. Some things I side pretty soundly right on (illegal immigration, military, gun laws), other things I side pretty soundly left on (gay rights/SSM, environment, NHC system), although most things I want a compromised version of that basically neither side proposes (taxes, regulations, worker's rights, basically any social issues not above, welfare). I go with whatever candidate I think is most likely to get those things that are most important to me at the time through or the candidate to get the least amount of stuff through that might go against my lean on the most important things to me at the time through. In general, no candidate works completely for me. I usually just get as much info as I can and muddle through.
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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    I voted that it doesn't change my opinion at all because it does seem like both claims were bogus. However, if it turns out to be more insidious, the yes it would sway me.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    should have learned from clinton

    tell us straight. don't lie

    that this self proclaimed 'problem solver' can't figure out how to extinguish this issue establishes that he is an even weaker candidate than might have earlier been thought
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    I'll wait for solid evidence to come out about allegations before I start making judgements. I hate how all these cases are treated by the media. Its all about wild speculation and trying to character assassinate both the accuser and the accused.

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    should have learned from clinton

    tell us straight. don't lie
    A perfect case study for this is the baseball steroid issue. How did that play out?

    Rafeal Palmiero: Outright lied. Waived his finger and everything. Ostracized.

    Mark McGwire: "I'm not here to talk about the past." Not a lie, but not being forthright, either. Still pretty much ostracized, though not as much as Palmiero.

    Sammy Sosa: "No habla".

    Jason Giambi: Didn't come right out and say "Yeah, I did it.", but we all knew what he meant. And, he sort of apologized. He was the butt of some jokes afterward, but he was forgiven (for the most part) and continued to play.

    Unless it's for something like molestation or rape or murder or treason, the American public WANTS to forgive, but just be straight with us. That's really all we ask.

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    See I'm the direct opposite, there's literally no chance of me voting for Obama, so whoever is the nominee is irrelevant. My vote is anti-Obama not pro-GOP candidate.
    I think that is the case for a lot of anti-Obama people. This race is starting to eerily resemble the Bush/Kerry race.

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    Re: Sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i would never vote for him anyway. otherwise, i don't care. he's a liar just like most of them. i saw some of the clips of cain answering questions and he's very incredible. he doesn't remember? what a joke. you know what the worst thing about him is, though? his stupid-assed 9-9-9 plan. that's the real crime.

    I agree its not so much that he paid off two women who alleged he sexually harrassed them...it was the disengenuous disbelievable way he handled it. Him and his campaign had a full 10 days to get it together and STILL he stumbled and bumbled answering the question and lied about it...

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