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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    English is a sexist language...?

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    partly yes ,personal pronouns that we use to refer to one change according to the gender of that person and become either him, he or her she(masculine, feminine)

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Not sure that Nazi Germany means that all germans were nazis.....it is a time period when Nazis were in control, but that doens't mean that the average german was a christian , or not a christian...
    Swedes are supposedly mostly Lutheran, like nearly all of them, but less than 5% actually attend church services. The definitions for labelling someone are ambiguous. IMO, if you never attend a church, you can't honestly claim an indentity with them. Further, even if you attend a christian church, and claim to be a christian, actions speak louder than words.
    No true Scottsman arguments are silly. The higher you set the standard for what a Christian is, the less Christians there actually are. It's a simple fact of history that Europe as a continent has been anti-semitic since the Middle Ages. For one reason or another, Christians have found far more reasons to persecute Jews than Muslims ever have. However, many people want to white wash this and claim that this isn't true in an attempt to disassociate themselves from the Holocaust. Sadly, the fact remains that most of the people supporting the Nazi infrastructure, from the lowly guard in a concentration camp to a Captain ordering the bombing of a French town, would have considered themselves to be a Christian. From what I've read the consensus in academia is that Christianity and Nazism were not in opposition to each other as the two are not mutually exclusive. Since when have the teachings of a religion been enough to stop a religious man from slaughtering another?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    partly yes ,personal pronouns that we use to refer to one change according to the gender of that person and become either him, he or her she(masculine, feminine)
    This is a better description of being "genderized" than sexist.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    This is a better description of being "genderized" than sexist.
    but those pronouns are sexist..in fact english is a germanic language but not sexist as much as german
    Last edited by Medusa; 11-09-11 at 03:21 PM.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    but those pronouns are sexist..
    Does the English language automatically assume a "he" to be inherently superior to a "she"?

    Out of curiosity, is Turkish "sexist"?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Does the English language automatically assume a "he" to be inherently superior to a "she"?

    Out of curiosity, is Turkish "sexist"?
    no turkish is not,old turkish is not sexist but it has included lots of arabic persian and french word for hundred of years..

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    LOL
    I thought for a second people were still here still trying to deny the fact that all religions are cults but the thread is just derailed.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    None sense. Europe up until the 60s was Christian to the 90% percentile. So how could the Nazi's NOT have been Christian? We can stand here talking all day and claim that a few prominent Nazis here and there weren't Christians but the overwhelming majority of Nazi Germany (that means officers, civilians, etc.) were in fact Christians. Quit revising history.

    You are using reductionist logic here and it is quite fallible. So, according to this line of reasoning, all of the Nazi's automatically fall into your "90% percentile" (whatever that means)? Is it possible that MOST German people were not truly Nazi's and did not subscribe to Nazi doctrines? I agree with you that a great majority of Europeans at least claimed to subscribe to some version of Christianity; however, I adamantly disagree that those who dedicated their lives to the propagation of Nazi doctrines IN NO WAY subscribed to Christianity. They may have used it early on as a propaganda tool to help "solidify" the masses, nothing more. You cannot use these examples as a means to wed true Christian principles to those of the Nazis.........it just doesn't fly.

    Can we agree that Hitler almost single-handedly drove the Nazi agenda? If so, then once again, I will post Hitler's own words regarding Christianity and let you be the judge:



    "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity." - Adolf Hitler, 1934


    Hitler was very clear about what he had in store for Christians: "Christianity is an invention of sick brains....The war will be over one day. I shall then consider that my life's final task will be to solve the religious problem…For the moment I am just keeping my eye upon them: if I ever have the slightest suspicion that they are getting dangerous, I will shoot the lot of them." - Adolf Hitler, 1940
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    ı didnt ask such a thing, fluffy,ı just stated my comment on vatican.no religion wants you to commit genocide, but an institution like popedom which represents an important majority of the christians could have done everthing to save victims during the war.ı cant know how many catholics live in europe, approximately between 150 and 200 millions from italy ,spain,crotia,ireland ,etc..

    But popedom is a religious state and in Quran and bible,god says 'if we save one's life,we save all the mankind.
    Yes you did. Go back and read your original post #182. You asked why the Vatican did nothing to try and prevent Hitler from carrying out the holocaust. My response was what could the Vatican have realistically done to stop Hitler and the Nazis.......the Pope had no real sway over Nazi affairs, did he? So which are you claiming: (1) That Hitler was a devout Catholic or (2) That the Pope was a Nazi insider?............................either way, you fail. See how this works?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    How do i know nazis were chrisitian. Easy Germany had a christian majority. We know what happened to the non christians dont we? Also pius XII was hitlers pope and knew about the holocaust. Millions of jews were in hiding all over europe, he helped hid some so of course he knew. Also the founders hated religion. Their quotes speak from themselves. Of course you dont believe any of the anti religion quotes.
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