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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Yes, Hitler's pope pius XII didn't care about the holocaust. A very christian thing to do indeed.
    no religion advises a genocide..

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I think josie is making the argument that he was christian which he clearly wasn't. Doesn't whether you agree that he is an atheist or not.
    No, I'm refuting your statement...

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Ben franklin was a confirmed atheist.
    ...which is totally, completely, OBVIOUSLY false.


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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    That doesn't prove they hate religion... if anything it just goes to prove our founding fathers wanted religious freedom.
    They wanted religious freedom but thought it should private. That's why they specially said that there should be no religious test for any public office and put a separation of church and state clause in our constitution. Unfortunately being a christian has become a requirement for office and schools want to teach pseudo science to our kids. Our fondling fathers would be ashamed of how religious we have become as a nation.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Treaty of tripoli clearly states we aren't a christian nation

    "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

    Just more proof that our deists/atheists founders hated religion.
    Are you even slightly familiar with the historical context of the Treaty of Tripoli, or did you just happen upon it in a Google Search? First, consider this, four years later, the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797 would be broken, rendered of no effect, and its controversial phrase would never again appear in a United States government treaty. Next, consider that this was one of four so called "treaties" of friendship between the US and the Barbary states designed to reassure these North African (Muslim) States of our "friendly" intentions and to, ultimately, prevent incessant raids by the Barbary Pirates along with the subsquent enslavement of captive sailors.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Choosing books is not editing them.
    The whole process of picking books is part of the editing.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He wasn't an atheist. He was a religious utilitarian and perhaps a deist. He would attend churches that preached helping your fellow man, and self-improvement. He would donate to them, if he appreciated the sermons. If he did not, he would not donate further. It is in his Autobiography.

    Surely, a man such as yourself, would be open to the notion that primary sources should be closely read before commentary?
    "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
    "Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.

    Doesn't sound like a guy that went to church.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Are you even slightly familiar with the historical context of the Treaty of Tripoli, or did you just happen upon it in a Google Search? First, consider this, four years later, the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797 would be broken, rendered of no effect, and its controversial phrase would never again appear in a United States government treaty. Next, consider that this was one of four so called "treaties" of friendship between the US and the Barbary states designed to reassure these North African (Muslim) States of our "friendly" intentions and to, ultimately, prevent incessant raids by the Barbary Pirates along with the subsquent enslavement of captive sailors.

    No charge for the History lesson, now go back and tell your professor the truth.
    Argument i was making is we aren't a christian nation and the treaty of tripoli is explicit that we weren't. Do you agree or disagree? I know very well what the treaty of Tripoli was for.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
    "Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.

    Doesn't sound like a guy that went to church.
    You attempting to school Fiddytree in history?


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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    in fact, hitler was an atheist,but his crimes arent related to his being religious or not...

    But Vatican never did anything to prevent him from commiting holocaust, as he did for the bosnian genocide....
    And, exactly what could the Vatican have done to stop the genocide..................sent out the Papal Guard to take on the Nazi shock troops?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    And, exactly what would the Vatican have done to stop the genocide..................sent out the Papal Guard to take on the Nazi shock troops?
    How about condemning it. The nazi's were christian. The fact that the pope was indifferent to it is disgusting.

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