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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    I do feel a bit sorry for these college kids, like 99percenter here, who fall under the spells of their left wing professors who are tying to push an agenda. They just keep sendin' 'em out into the world spouting the same old worn out talking points, and unsubstantiated fertilizer. *Sighs*......... I suppose I'll just have to redouble my efforts.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    I'll take Lincoln at his own word. Ever read his Second Inaugural address? I'm certain that you have not, but, as I said, I feel the need to help enlighten the unwashed masses:


    Sure doesn't sound like someone who didn't espouse any specific religious beliefs. But please, don't let things like facts, authentic quotations, and actual accounts get in the way of your trolling and hackery.
    Of course he isn't going to say that in public. The american people back than were very religious just like they are now. Lincoln was a smart, intelligent man just like our founding fathers. He didn't believe in any particular religion.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Yes, hitler was catholic and committed the holocaust in the name of Christianity.
    No he wasn't and no he didn't. He did invoke Christianity in order to win over conservative forces in Germany. He constantly spoke of Western European culture and Germany being a Christian nation. He didn't believe any of that but he was quick to use it to gain political power.

    He committed the holocaust in the name of white supremecy and racial purity. There is nothing biblical of non-European races being inferior to Germans.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    I do feel a bit sorry for these college kids, like 99percenter here, who fall under the spells of their left wing professors who are tying to push an agenda. They just keep sendin' 'em out into the world spouting the same old worn out talking points, and unsubstantiated fertilizer. *Sighs*......... I suppose I'll just have to redouble my efforts.
    No professor says stuff this dumb. No professor of history, at least.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Yes, hitler was catholic and committed the holocaust in the name of Christianity. And i said the founders were either deists or atheists and didn't take part in any religion. Ben franklin was a confirmed atheist.
    Where did you learn history? The Internet?
    No wonder US education is so messed up these days
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Of course he isn't going to say that in public. The american people back than were very religious just like they are now. Lincoln was a smart, intelligent man just like our founding fathers. He didn't believe in any particular religion.
    So you pretend to know what Lincoln didn't say in public?

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you pretend to know what Lincoln didn't say in public?

    I'll go what by his friends and people close to him say.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Weird.

    "You desire to know something of my religion. It is the first time I have been questioned upon it. But I cannot take your curiosity amiss, and shall endeavour in a few words to gratify it. Here is my creed. I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His providence. That He ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render Him is doing good to His other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental principles of all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

    "As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the Truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as probably it has, of making his doctrines more respected and better observed; especially as I do not perceive that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in His government of the world with any particular marks of His displeasure.

    "I shall only add, respecting myself, that, having experienced the goodness of that Being in conducting me prosperously through a long life, I have no doubt of its continuance in the next, without the smallest conceit of meriting it... I confide that you will not expose me to criticism and censure by publishing any part of this communication to you. I have ever let others enjoy their religious sentiments, without reflecting on them for those that appeared to me unsupportable and even absurd. All sects here, and we have a great variety, have experienced my good will in assisting them with subscriptions for building their new places of worship; and, as I never opposed any of their doctrines, I hope to go out of the world in peace with them all."


    [Benjamin Franklin, letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale, shortly before his death; from "Benjamin Franklin" by Carl Van Doren, the October, 1938 Viking Press edition pages 777-778 Also see Alice J. Hall, "Philosopher of Dissent: Benj. Franklin," National Geographic, Vol. 148, No. 1, July, 1975, p. 94]
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Yes, hitler was catholic and committed the holocaust in the name of Christianity.
    That is ridiculous. Can you provide evidence?

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That is ridiculous. Can you provide evidence?
    Why are you even bothering?

    It is not worth the effort.
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