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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I would have to wonder where you get your information: While there were atheists among the founding fathers, most accounts put the number far less than a plurality. I'ml not sure that diests was even a word in common usage in the late 1700's. They did not create a secular nation, rather a nation free from any official religion. Religion spends more money stopping gays from getting married than donating etc, I would need a citation for that statement. The official church of Norway is the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, and roughly 80% of the Norwegians belonging to that church. While there may be some anti condom churches encouraging Africans to not use condoms. I suspect I could find a religion that believed that all atheists should be hanged. While you might make the argument that Hitler was a christian in name, few would say that he was a christian in principle. Although he sometimes claimed to be a christian in later years, he ceased participating in any church early on.

    BTW, I am an atheist myself, I just do not use false information to denigrate those who disagree with me.
    The mormon church spent 180,000 to stop prop 8
    Mormon church reports spending $180,000 on Proposition 8 - latimes.com
    IMO any money spent stopping gays from getting married which the bible makes no mention of, is money not spent helping the poor which the bible requires. In fact any one who believes that christians actually help the poor are crazy. They support a party that is so anti welfare. Religious folks are the most intolerant and judgmental. People like gates and buffet donate a lot to charity and dont need religion to tell them to.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I would have to wonder where you get your information: While there were atheists among the founding fathers, most accounts put the number far less than a plurality. I'ml not sure that diests was even a word in common usage in the late 1700's. They did not create a secular nation, rather a nation free from any official religion. Religion spends more money stopping gays from getting married than donating etc, I would need a citation for that statement. The official church of Norway is the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, and roughly 80% of the Norwegians belonging to that church. While there may be some anti condom churches encouraging Africans to not use condoms. I suspect I could find a religion that believed that all atheists should be hanged. While you might make the argument that Hitler was a christian in name, few would say that he was a christian in principle. Although he sometimes claimed to be a christian in later years, he ceased participating in any church early on.

    BTW, I am an atheist myself, I just do not use false information to denigrate those who disagree with me.
    I would say a nation free from an official religion is a secular one. By secular i dont mean atheist. I would say many nations in the world are secular. The only ones that arent are the islamic ones that follow sharia law. And for the condom thing it was the pope that said the condoms make the HIV problem in africa worse. A supposed man of god and a former member of the nazi party is probably the most intolerant person of all blaming other folks for their own problems instead of taking credit.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    The mormon church spent 180,000 to stop prop 8
    Mormon church reports spending $180,000 on Proposition 8 - latimes.com
    IMO any money spent stopping gays from getting married which the bible makes no mention of, is money not spent helping the poor which the bible requires. In fact any one who believes that christians actually help the poor are crazy. They support a party that is so anti welfare. Religious folks are the most intolerant and judgmental. People like gates and buffet donate a lot to charity and dont need religion to tell them to.

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    Man, you're just all over the map aren't you? Have you got a point about cults?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Man, you're just all over the map aren't you? Have you got a point about cults?
    He asked for proof that churches rather stop gay from getting married than donate to charity and i gave him some. I dont care if religions are cults or not. I would say yes but the fact that we are having this conservation would disappoint our deist/atheist founding fathers.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    He asked for proof that churches rather stop gay from getting married than donate to charity and i gave him some. I dont care if religions are cults or not. I would say yes but the fact that we are having this conservation would disappoint our deist/atheist founding fathers.
    You're not proving anything with Robertson, if you read the Bible you would know that charity is to be done quietly, and not for public consumption.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Actually Jefferson was a deist. He just said he belonged to a church because americans back than were the same way they are now. They want a christian president. If obama said he muslim like his father he would not have won. He said he was christian. I hope he is an atheist. But i will take his word that he is a christian. And ben franklin was a confirmed atheist.

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    You said nothing about any founding father in particular, you said most of the founding fathers. I showed you were wrong.

    I don't think I will respond to you anymore because you are either very uneducated and immature or just a common troll.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I would say a nation free from an official religion is a secular one. By secular i dont mean atheist. I would say many nations in the world are secular. The only ones that arent are the islamic ones that follow sharia law. And for the condom thing it was the pope that said the condoms make the HIV problem in africa worse. A supposed man of god and a former member of the nazi party is probably the most intolerant person of all blaming other folks for their own problems instead of taking credit.
    The way I interpret secular means free from religion. I would agree that does not necessarily mean atheist, although I would hard pressed to come up with a nation free from religion that was not atheist. My point is that the founders never intended the nation to be free from religion, most were religious. Rather they intended the nation to be free from any official religion.
    I am aware that a pope at one time stated that condoms contributed to the aids problem in Africa, in my book an absurd statement. It also denigrates the good works that many of the worlds churches do in Africa and other third world countries. It is interesting that the proof presented that religions spend more fighting gay rights than charitable works and helping the poor is the Mormon church. For starters, I doubt that 180K is anyway near the amount that the Mormons spend on charity. I don't know about now, but when I was growing up, there was a large LDS church in the next block that contained a cannery where food was put up for the poor, I would assume that a similar attitude exists in the church today. My point with Hitler was that while he sometimes claimed to be a Christian, his actions were not, and he got away from the church early on. While I will agree that the Muslim countries are theocracies, there are a few countries that have an official religion without being theocratic. Norway, I believe is one of them, and England, if not now, has been so in the past. Don't know about now.

    "A supposed man of god and a former member of the nazi party is probably the most intolerant person of all blaming other folks for their own problems instead of taking credit"
    I'm confused about this statement, could you enlighten me?

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Pope's No. 2 blames homosexuality, not celibacy for pedophilia - USATODAY.com

    Catholic League Blames Gays For Catholic Church's Child Abuse Scandal | ThinkProgress

    And the people of norway and england are not religous at all. Only 2% of people from norway attend church. Many of them considered themselves agnostic or atheist. In europe religion is a very private thing and politicians do not to be religious to a point it decides their policy to be elected.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post

    Most of our founding fathers were atheists and deists
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