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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    My point is that even those who strive to walk the walk often stumble.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    My point is that even those who strive to walk the walk often stumble.
    I got that and absolutely agree. My point was that you can call yourself a Christian all day long but you will be recognized for what you are.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Some people are evil. Some evil people use religion as an excuse to commit heinous acts; others need no rationale. But does falling short of perfection--of sinning--render one no longer Christian?
    No comment at all on the astonishingly ignorant claim that the Catholic Church isn't Christian.
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    My point is that even those who strive to walk the walk often stumble.
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    I got that and absolutely agree. My point was that you can call yourself a Christian all day long but you will be recognized for what you are.
    No, sinning doesn't render someone no longer a Christian. Willfully sinning, failing to repent, and pulling away from the teachings of Christ and His Apostles would render someone no longer Christ-like (a Christian).

    In my opinion, the Catholic church stopped making the tough choices a long time ago. And, they domonstrate that Christ is no longer the head of their church - instead man is - many of them self serving. The Catholic church can do all the good it wants by human standards, but if it's teaching the doctrines of man and not of Christ, then it's not Christian - regardless of what it claims to be or what its origins were. And, again, I'll say that there may be Christian people who associate themselves with the Catholic church, but I think that most who would take the Bible seriously would either flee the organization or actively demand change.

    All men, all religions, and all churches will eventually be recognized for what they are. A church doesn't need a hierarchical beyond it's members, deacons, shepards/elders, and Christ to exist. So what's the Christlike purpose of the Catholic church, and why does "it" do what "it" does?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    All men, all religions, and all churches will eventually be recognized for what they are. A church doesn't need a hierarchical beyond it's members, deacons, shepards/elders, and Christ to exist. So what's the Christlike purpose of the Catholic church, and why does "it" do what "it" does?
    To many Christian churches follow a doctrine that is based on tradition rather than biblical president or the direct teachings of Christ.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    I haven't slogged through this entire thread, but I'd say that various interpretations of any religion tend to act in cult like ways when the punishment for non blelief is such that extricating yourself from it becomes a problem.

    In this regard, just about any religion can become cult like, but do not have to be so. They are not all alike, however, as some are more intrinsically cult-like in nature than others by very design.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Look at this list
    US doesn't make cut for happiest nations list - Business - World business - msnbc.com

    If you look at this map
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ckerman_en.svg

    that's where all the atheists tend to be. In happy nations. The extremely religious nations like our's tend to be third world countries.
    Still didn't answer ANY of my questions. The MSNBC report you cite, does not even take religious involvement into account. By the way, Israel is #9 on the "Happy List". Are you implying that Israel is an atheisitic/agnostic nation? Survey says.....................................FAIL.


    One more thing, accordng to a recent Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, France claims to be one the most "athesitic" nations on Earth. Also ranking near the top were South Korea, Estonia, the Czech Republic, Germany, and Russia...........none of which made your "Happiest Countries" list. Any explanation for that? I'm waiting................... *crickets chirping in the background*
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    I learned more recently about the Epic of Gilgamesh and how it has stories in it that are almost exactly mirrored in the Old Testament of the Bible.....(Creation and "The Flood")

    Couple that with how Christianity came after, yet has extremely similar theories from previous Roman and other Pagan religions... and Ive come to the conclusion that somewhere along the line people made their own stories and those stories turned into a way to wield power over the people.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Still didn't answer ANY of my questions. The MSNBC report you cite, does not even take religious involvement into account. By the way, Israel is #9 on the "Happy List". Are you implying that Israel is an atheisitic/agnostic nation? Survey says.....................................FAIL.


    One more thing, accordng to a recent Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, France claims to be one the most "athesitic" nations on Earth. Also ranking near the top were South Korea, Estonia, the Czech Republic, Germany, and Russia...........none of which made your "Happiest Countries" list. Any explanation for that? I'm waiting................... *crickets chirping in the background*

    Actually israel is shaded light blue on that map i posted, so i guesing there are quite a few atheists/agnostics. BTW this is just one list. Many of them dont even have israel on them.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    99.9% of that is not true at all.

    Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and three were Roman Catholics (C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons). Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.
    A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson[13][14][15] (who created the so-called "Jefferson Bible") and Benjamin Franklin.[16] A few others (most notably Thomas Paine) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.[17]
    - Founding Fathers of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But don't let facts get in the way of bigotry.

    You pick out only the bad things church organizations have done while leaving out anything good.
    Actually Jefferson was a deist. He just said he belonged to a church because americans back than were the same way they are now. They want a christian president. If obama said he muslim like his father he would not have won. He said he was christian. I hope he is an atheist. But i will take his word that he is a christian. And ben franklin was a confirmed atheist.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Christians also used the bible to justify slavery. It was Lincoln who was either an atheist or deist that led the fight to emancipate them. Just goes to show that people that dont subscribe to a religion have more morals.

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