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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Uhhh....uhhh....
    As an atheist, I'm ashamed that this kind of argument was made in defense of atheism
    Religion is evil and has been used as a excuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The nazis were christian and committed heinous acts in the name of Christianity.

    Are all religions cults?-4836hitlereugeniopacelli-jpg

    Most of our founding fathers were atheists and deists and realized the evils of religion so they decided to create a secular nation. Religion is a form of oppression. We have a church that says condoms make the HIV problem in africa worst. Religious fanatics here spend more money stopping gays from getting married instead of donating to charity or helping the poor. They also want to indoctrinate our children with false creationists theories. A society w/o religion like norway is a much happier one.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    "Religion is the root of all evil in the world"

    "Many of the wars we have are caused by religion"


    So much fail here that I don't where to begin rebutting
    You don't have to rebut anything. A true atheist would agree with all i have to say.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Religion is evil and has been used as a excuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The nazis were christian and committed heinous acts in the name of Christianity.

    Are all religions cults?-4836hitlereugeniopacelli-jpg

    Most of our founding fathers were atheists and deists and realized the evils of religion so they decided to create a secular nation. Religion is a form of oppression. We have a church that says condoms make the HIV problem in africa worst. Religious fanatics here spend more money stopping gays from getting married instead of donating to charity or helping the poor. They also want to indoctrinate our children with false creationists theories. A society w/o religion like norway is a much happier one.
    99.9% of that is not true at all.

    Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and three were Roman Catholics (C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons). Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.
    A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson[13][14][15] (who created the so-called "Jefferson Bible") and Benjamin Franklin.[16] A few others (most notably Thomas Paine) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.[17]
    - Founding Fathers of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But don't let facts get in the way of bigotry.

    You pick out only the bad things church organizations have done while leaving out anything good.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    You don't have to rebut anything. A true atheist would agree with all i have to say.
    Now you decide what a true atheist is? I know quite a few at this site alone that would say that is just ignorant.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Religion is evil and has been used as a excuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The nazis were christian and committed heinous acts in the name of Christianity.

    Are all religions cults?-4836hitlereugeniopacelli-jpg

    Most of our founding fathers were atheists and deists and realized the evils of religion so they decided to create a secular nation. Religion is a form of oppression. We have a church that says condoms make the HIV problem in africa worst. Religious fanatics here spend more money stopping gays from getting married instead of donating to charity or helping the poor. They also want to indoctrinate our children with false creationists theories. A society w/o religion like norway is a much happier one.

    I wonder if it has ever occurred to you, that you'd be taken more seriously if you didn't post so much stuff that isn't true and is so easily proven wrong.

    But by all means, keep making **** up.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Religion is evil and has been used as a excuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The nazis were christian and committed heinous acts in the name of Christianity.

    Are all religions cults?-4836hitlereugeniopacelli-jpg

    Most of our founding fathers were atheists and deists and realized the evils of religion so they decided to create a secular nation. Religion is a form of oppression. We have a church that says condoms make the HIV problem in africa worst. Religious fanatics here spend more money stopping gays from getting married instead of donating to charity or helping the poor. They also want to indoctrinate our children with false creationists theories. A society w/o religion like norway is a much happier one.
    I would have to wonder where you get your information: While there were atheists among the founding fathers, most accounts put the number far less than a plurality. I'ml not sure that diests was even a word in common usage in the late 1700's. They did not create a secular nation, rather a nation free from any official religion. Religion spends more money stopping gays from getting married than donating etc, I would need a citation for that statement. The official church of Norway is the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, and roughly 80% of the Norwegians belonging to that church. While there may be some anti condom churches encouraging Africans to not use condoms. I suspect I could find a religion that believed that all atheists should be hanged. While you might make the argument that Hitler was a christian in name, few would say that he was a christian in principle. Although he sometimes claimed to be a christian in later years, he ceased participating in any church early on.

    BTW, I am an atheist myself, I just do not use false information to denigrate those who disagree with me.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Religion is evil and has been used as a excuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The nazis were christian and committed heinous acts in the name of Christianity.

    Are all religions cults?-4836hitlereugeniopacelli-jpg

    We have a church that says condoms make the HIV problem in africa worst. Religious fanatics here spend more money stopping gays from getting married instead of donating to charity or helping the poor. They also want to indoctrinate our children with false creationists theories. A society w/o religion like norway is a much happier one.
    People are evil and have used religion as an exuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The Nazis were evil, and they twisted Christianity to suit their purpose. They weren't Christian any more than popes who killed other popes to become pope. The Catholic church isn't Christian. Some of the people in the Catholic church may be.

    For over 30 years, the only theory indoctrination that has occured in public schools has been with the theory of macro-evolution. It's like arguing that it's important to be taught that I was adopted when I'd rather believe I was born naturally to my parents. Why is it so important that school age kids claim the big bang for their birthright?

    Wiki (yes, not the ideal source, but quick) says religion does, in fact, exist in Norway. In fact, part of each citizens' taxes autmotically goes to support the church there. What demostrates that they are happier than the citizens of the US or Canada anyway?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    If I use cult to define the post office today, then, yes, your scenario would be correct. However if society as a whole likes my defining the PO as a cult and begins using the term, it would soon be accepted as common language and the dictionaries would reflect that.

    If words did not change meaning, there would be no reason for revisions of dictionaries, yet the Oxford English Dictionary in September redefined over 1500 words. Among them: base, black, color, letter, and value, (from their site), all common words for which, by your standards, would have no need for new definitions.

    As for communication being difficult if words change meaning, grab a copy of The Canterbury Tales in original old English, or Olde, as Chaucer would say, and compare it to a "translated" version of today. It is reasonably certain that most would be more comfortable with today's version.
    That's all true but it does not change the fact that today it means what the dictionary says and does not appear to be changing.

    So still a no go.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    People are evil and have used religion as an exuse to commit all kinds of heinous acts. The Nazis were evil, and they twisted Christianity to suit their purpose. They weren't Christian any more than popes who killed other popes to become pope. The Catholic church isn't Christian. Some of the people in the Catholic church may be.
    Some people are evil. Some evil people use religion as an excuse to commit heinous acts; others need no rationale. But does falling short of perfection--of sinning--render one no longer Christian?

    No comment at all on the astonishingly ignorant claim that the Catholic Church isn't Christian.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Some people are evil. Some evil people use religion as an excuse to commit heinous acts; others need no rationale. But does falling short of perfection--of sinning--render one no longer Christian?
    No but if you do not walk the walk as well as talk the talk...

    John 8:44-45:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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