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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Now we can debate that but I already admit its just my opinion, people getting upset over facts seems like overreacting or they are too sensitive to me. If you dont think so thats fine by me.
    I think you are correct. The word "cult" brings to mind visions of Jones Town. Manson and the Phelps family. The word "cult" has allot of negativity attached to it when it is actually not a negative word. It simply means devoted to something. This can be good or bad depending on what is going on.
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I think you are correct. The word "cult" brings to mind visions of Jones Town. Manson and the Phelps family. The word "cult" has allot of negativity attached to it when it is actually not a negative word. It simply means devoted to something. This can be good or bad depending on what is going on.
    I agree 100%, some people do like to use it as a negative when there is no negativity attached to it. Much like the extremist on this very board will use words like Con, righty, lefty, libbo etc with a negative connotation to it, but in reality there is no real negativity with the definition of those actual words.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Is it possible that only time will tell? Meaning, if someone follows "the one" they believe to be the correct religious leader - and it almost always comes down to one - eventually that particular "the one" is proved to be 1.) nuts; 2.) a liar; 3.) a crook; 4.) a guy trying to get laid on demand, etc. If so, then whatever that particular "the one" started was a cult. It could be proved in history or in the present, in which case it is or was an obvious cult. Or, it will be proved in the future - more likely a religion - false or true, if it lasts without 1, 2, 3, or 4 being proved, it becomes a religion (a true or a false religion).

    If it's proved false in the hereafter, it's a false religion. If it's proved true in the hereafter, it's a true religion.

    It's been my experience that it's pretty difficult to get someone to come back from the dead to show which ones are false and which one is true. Although, it may have happened...
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    All religions are cults and anyone who follows one is an idiot. Karl marx (don't **** your pants everyone) once said religion is the opiate of the masses. He was right.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    All religions are cults and anyone who follows one is an idiot. Karl marx (don't **** your pants everyone) once said religion is the opiate of the masses. He was right.
    I guess you don't like people having hope for the future?

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    I guess you don't like people having hope for the future?

    My opinion, Gosh darn it GreenvilleGrows said it. Except way better than I could ever hope to.
    Many of the the wars we have are caused by religion. Religion is the root of all evil in the world. Its also an excuse for intolerance. We have a church that says its okay to be a pedophile but not gay. Most happy countries tend to be atheist/agnostic.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I think you are correct. The word "cult" brings to mind visions of Jones Town. Manson and the Phelps family. The word "cult" has allot of negativity attached to it when it is actually not a negative word. It simply means devoted to something. This can be good or bad depending on what is going on.
    I think the use of the word cult means whatever the user intends if to mean. To use an anecdotal explanation, one of Richmond's oldest churches split over the sole issue of whether the use of musical instruments with the singing was permissible. I have heard those that stayed refer to those that left as a cult.

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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Many of the the wars we have are caused by religion. Religion is the root of all evil in the world. Its also an excuse for intolerance. We have a church that says its okay to be a pedophile but not gay. Most happy countries tend to be atheist/agnostic.
    A few questions here:

    1. To which "happy" countries are you referring?
    2. How do you rate the "happiness level" of a country?
    3. How do you determine that an entire nation is atheistic/agnostic?
    4. Can you provide substantiation for your logically fallacious assertions?
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    According to Merriam-Webster...yes.

    1: formal religious veneration : worship
    2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also: its body of adherents
    3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also: its body of adherents
    4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>
    5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially: such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
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    Re: Are all religions cults?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Many of the the wars we have are caused by religion. Religion is the root of all evil in the world. Its also an excuse for intolerance. We have a church that says its okay to be a pedophile but not gay.
    James wrote that according to God "pure and undefiled religion is to visit orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world". Using that definition, the examples used above describe a defiled religion - a false religion - potentially a cult.

    According to James, what will the Christian religion do when it is properly and fairly developed? "Pure religion" would mean being genuine and sincere - and, free from an improper or hypocritical mixture -- and undefiled before God (God's opinion, not ours). Note: James doesn't say there is nothing else essential to religion; but seems to be saying that true religion is demonstrated in life's actions and choices. It would show itself in serving others, in consistency, and in not giving in to the "worldly" (in this example, "worldly" would basically be defined by the New Testament - James' "religion").

    If a religion uses a standard as their basis (the example being the Catholic church referenced above and the Bible), and then doesn't abide by their own standard (they say it's God given, but they don't follow it), haven't they proved themselves false? It amazes me how many "religions" do this. "We believe the Bible is the one and only perfect God's word", but "we don't follow it or really even know what it says". Christianity is certainly not the only religion to have been defiled similarly.
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