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Thread: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, it is a lie. the attacks are based on politics, not religion.
    the politics are heavily based on religion and "bigotry".

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    the politics are heavily based on religion.
    wrong. the politics unfortunately have a religious element, which is of course the fault of BOTH sides of the conflict.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    wrong. the politics unfortunately have a religious element, which is of course the fault of BOTH sides of the conflict.
    ?

    so how is my statement wrong?

    I agree, they both have religious based "bigotry" and hate... geez you do like to drive this off-topic

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    ...I agree, they both have religious based "bigotry" and hate... geez you do like to drive this off-topic
    it was not I brought up the unrelated subject matter, I simply responded to it.

    but I am done with that matter....in this thread.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    The thread title is misleading. Irrational fear is not wisdom or being vigilant. It's stupid.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The thread title is misleading. Irrational fear is not wisdom or being vigilant. It's stupid.
    the title may indeed simply be sophistry in order to attempt to defend the indefensible.

    yep, that's what it is.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The thread title is misleading. Irrational fear is not wisdom or being vigilant. It's stupid.
    The question is if it's irrational to even have .00000000000001% non-trust in any group. It is not just focused on Muslims.

    To argue against my point is to say that you must have complete trust in any large group.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    My question is pretty simple and straight-forward. We ALL know there have been many terrorist attacks on American soil. Is it irrational/weak-minded/stupid to not even have a slight fear/vigilance about Muslims in America? I am NOT talking about signs/propaganda/that sort of stuff. Merely, an internal awareness that "hey, radical Muslims have been killing people and there's a lot of Muslims who haven't harmed/killed people who sympathize with them." As a kid, I learned that being bit by a cat made one a bit wary, internally of cats. Don't even try to say I'm comparing Muslims to cats because I'll call you out on that BS. It is human behavior to have an internal wariness/vigilance after being attacked/hurt from certain, past things. Some blacks distrust white people today because of slavery and other atrocities in the past. Some people have a wariness of Christians because some atrocities/killings have happened under Christianity. The same goes for communists/socialists/capitalists. Are people wrong to be even a bit wary internally about certain people who have in their group other people who have committed murders?

    Take the Juan Williams example. He was fired because he simply said he felt wary being on a plane with a Muslim in garb. You could say he was an idiot, or you may be an idiot for forgetting that at least four planes went down by Muslim extremists. Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad and I'm not saying people should put up signs and propaganda showing their intense fear. All I'm saying is that it is human nature to distrust a subset of people who has another group within the same set who has caused much evil---radical Muslims.

    There are some liberals in this world who would say, right after 9/11, that you must forget and better not be afraid or wary. They have no comprehension of the pain inflicted during such events. Whenever a person of such liberal ideology tries to use the PC-BS to smear me, I feel like back-handing them (not physically) in regards to discussion. I am tired of being told how to think. Tired of being told not to be wise and remember. Tired of being told to forget the past only to relive it over and over and over again.
    Well, Juan Williams was attacked by liberals for being wary of Muslims after 9/11.

    But Janet Napolitano was attacked by conservatives for warning that right-wing militias may try to recruit veterans back from Iraq and Afghanistan. And it's important to remember that the Oklahoma City Bombing was done by a Marine Corps veteran with extremely far-right politics.

    And if that was too long ago, in 2008 the Christian Patriot movement in Michigan known as "Hutaree" were arrested for a plot to kill police officers and civilians with illegal firearms and explosives.

    So Muslims aren't the only group - religious, ethnic, or political - out to attack the freedoms and liberties we enjoy in this nation.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    The question is if it's irrational to even have .00000000000001% non-trust in any group. It is not just focused on Muslims....
    no, that is NOT the question asked in the OP.

    you have simply edited the question to make it more pallitable.

    the fact of the matter is, you are trying desperately & fruitlessly to defend an indefensable argument...that prejudice against all Muslims due to the actions of a very small minority, is legitimate.
    Last edited by Thunder; 10-31-11 at 03:36 PM.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, that is NOT the question asked in the OP.

    you have simply edited the question to make it more pallitable.

    the fact of the matter is, you are trying desperatly & fruitlessly to defend an indefensable argument...that prejudice against all Muslims due to the actions of a very small minority, is legitimate.
    You consistently twist people's words. As such it's not worth refuting your claims.

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