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Thread: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Since you worded it as "slight wariness," I voted no. I don't think people are wrong to experience such an emotion based on events that have happened and hostility toward the United States. If it escalates into hatred or discrimination, then there's a problem.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Wake, why don't you follow your username and WAKE THE **** UP. It is not irrational to be wary of extremist Muslims who preach hate against America. It's absolutely irrational to be wary of an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. But pointing that out is just liberal claptrap, I suppose
    It just has to be repeated.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You mean like Sarah Palin refusing to call Abortion Clinic Bombers terrorists
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Since you worded it as "slight wariness," I voted no. I don't think people are wrong to experience such an emotion based on events that have happened and hostility toward the United States. If it escalates into hatred or discrimination, then there's a problem.
    The wariness I mean is even less than that. It's not even discernable.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Considering the fact that I hate and distrust just about everyone, however the difference is that I dont run to the thugerment via the Patriot Act, TSA and other thugerment agencies to hurt others. If you want to hate muslims, go right ahead but dont get pissed the next time you try to be a tough guy against some random muslim and he lays you out on the floor.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    Considering the fact that I hate and distrust just about everyone, however the difference is that I dont run to the thugerment via the Patriot Act, TSA and other thugerment agencies to hurt others. If you want to hate muslims, go right ahead but dont get pissed the next time you try to be a tough guy against some random muslim and he lays you out on the floor.
    Psh. You just hate everyone because you are a Mets fan.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Psh. You just hate everyone because you are a Mets fan.
    You were on the couch this past postseason too buddy
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    I don't trust all Muslims. Likewise, I don't trust all Christians. Same with all Republicans/Democrats, Liberals/Conservatives, etc. To argue against my claim you must have complete faith and trust in those groups. Logic demands I am correct. Do you think it logical to trust all large groups? The focus was never just Muslims. The focus is whether or not it is rational to distrust certain groups---to distrust is to not have %100 trust. As said before, to disagree you must have %100 trust.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Makes me wonder why so many on the left can say it's irrational to even have a mere shred of wise vigilance yet some of those same liberals distrust the religious, Wall Street, gun owners, and the south, etc.
    I can't speak for everyone on the left, but when I meet someone who is clearly from the deep south . . . and I mean DEEP south . . . I probably assume they are a little ignorant about some things. But I treat still treat them with respect until they actually say something I feel is stupid.

    Same thing with Muslims. When I see someone who is obviously muslim on a plane I may feel slightly uncomfortable, that's only natural in this day and age. But I certainly don't make any efforts to make them feel uncomfortable and I definitely don't advocate that all muslims go through special screening or otherwise attempt to legislatively segregate them, just because of their faith. And I certainly wouldn't advocate banning mosques in my neighborhood, any more than I would advocate banning a firing range.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I can't speak for everyone on the left, but when I meet someone who is clearly from the deep south . . . and I mean DEEP south . . . I probably assume they are a little ignorant about some things. But I treat still treat them with respect until they actually say something I feel is stupid.Same thing with Muslims. When I see someone who is obviously muslim on a plane I may feel slightly uncomfortable, that's only natural in this day and age. But I certainly don't make any efforts to make them feel uncomfortable and I definitely don't advocate that all muslims go through special screening or otherwise attempt to legislatively segregate them, just because of their faith. And I certainly wouldn't advocate banning mosques in my neighborhood, any more than I would advocate banning a firing range.
    I agree absolutely with this. In regards to the bolded parts, the overreactors in this thread would call you bigoted/irrational/hateful/weak-minded/whatever other insults they can pull out of their butts. They think you must trust all such groups completely. I am sick of being called irrational for not subscribing to the irrational notion that you must either have full trust or be deemed a hateful bigot. Such madness needs to stop.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    No, there is no reason to suspect American Muslims of plotting anything or being dangerous. There is absolutely no statistically significant data to suggest that such people are actually a threat. Don't forget, most terrorist attacks in this country have been carried out by white, Christian, American citizens. But even so, there's not much reason to fear the random people you meet every day. Don't be afraid of things that are almost guaranteed not to happen.
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