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Thread: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    That's another thing. I AM wary of cars, too. I'm a very careful person. Equally, I am wary of fast food, etc.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whoppletraps View Post
    Another terrorist attack in the US is more than likely going to be committed by a Muslim, so excuse me for not being politically correct because I don't want to get blown up by some jihadist.
    But how often does it occur? I think I have a well better chance of being hit by a car on any given day than from being blown up by terrorists. In fact on my list of death probabilities, terrorists don't even really show up.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That's another thing. I AM wary of cars, too. I'm a very careful person. Equally, I am wary of fast food, etc.
    we are not talking about cars or fastfood.

    we are talking about human beings, who have feelings...and rights.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Traumatic situations affect people in irrational ways. 9/11, arguably, was one of the most traumatic national events in this countries history and affected multiple people.

    Its not uncommon for someone who has recently witnessed a nasty car crash to be wary of getting in a car. I know from personal experience I had a significant irrational fear of riding my Motorcycle for some time after experiencing a motorcycle crash and again later after hearing about a really really bad one.

    Is it irrational to be more scared or worried about a Jihadist attack than a car accident? Yes, absolutely. Is it relatively understandable? IMHO yes. People drive every day and could NEVER significantly interact with a car accident in their entire lives. People alive and watching 9/11 however could very easily have been traumatized by that event and their psyche significant affected. Their irrational fear is just that, irrational, but I think its a bit irrational also not to be able to understand how some may feel that way.
    Agreed. While it might not be rational, a woman who gets robbed by a black man on the street is likely to be more wary of black men in the aftermath of that event. Is it understandable? Yes. Is it rational? No. If we were talking about individuals, this wouldn't be that big a deal, but we have a sizable portion of our population using 9/11 as an excuse to profile and engage in prejudice and discrimination. Moreover, the media sensationalization shapes our perceptions on such issues, so that we may have a distorted perception and fear of Muslims in relation to things that are actually more likely to kill us.
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we are not talking about cars or fastfood.

    we are talking about human beings, who have feelings...and rights.
    I respectfully disagree. We are talking about groups. However, I agreed with Zyphlin's bit about being wary about cars.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I respectfully disagree. We are talking about groups. However, I agreed with Zyphlin's bit about being wary about cars.
    did you notice he mentioned having an irrational fear of motorcycles for a while?

    many fears are irrational. why? because they are not based on logic or rational thinking.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we are not talking about cars or fastfood.

    we are talking about human beings, who have feelings...and rights.
    Rights? Since when is not being feared a right?
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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Its very clear guys: 9-11 was committed by 19 Muslims who were NOT American citizens.

    Muslims died in the towers. They have fought for us on the battlefields of Iraq & Afghanistan.

    There is no logical nor rational reason to be wary or suspicious of Muslim-Americans.
    Of coures there is.

    They are human beings. Human beings can murder, rape, kill, steal, assult, cheat, and lie. There's nothing special about Muslims that make them the pinnacle of trustworthiness or some kind of saints. Its absolutely reasonable and rational to be wary or supsicious of Muslim-Americans.

    Its just not rational to distrust them to a larger degree simply because of 9/11.

    I will say though that it may be arguable that its reasonable to do so, in similar to the way I spoke about it being understandable. IE, due to the trauma of the event and the way people react to such I think its reasonable that some may feel that way even if its not logical or rational, because its actually someone rational and logical that people will react to trauma in an illogical and irrational way.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we are talking about human beings, who have feelings...and rights.
    No one has the right to be trusted, believed, or given the benefit of the doubt on an individual level.

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    Re: The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No one has the right to be trusted, believed, or given the benefit of the doubt on an individual level.
    I humbly disagree.

    I believe we all have the basic human right to be judged by our own behavior, deeds & record, and not by those who happen to claim to be of the same religion as us.

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