View Poll Results: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

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  • Yes, across the board.

    14 12.17%
  • Yes, for infrastructure.

    33 28.70%
  • Yes, for education. (K-12)

    21 18.26%
  • Yes, for job creation.

    19 16.52%
  • Yes, for social programs.

    15 13.04%
  • Yes, for medical care.

    26 22.61%
  • Yes, for the environment.

    19 16.52%
  • Yes, but... not for some particular programs (please elaborate).

    10 8.70%
  • No. None. Not for anything at all.

    63 54.78%
  • Undecided. Convince me either way.

    1 0.87%
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And I am explaining, for the umpteenth time, that limiting the discussion to federal income tax is useless and misleading. And the idea that somehow it's moral to make sure you take a little from everyone, even if it's just a penny... That's silly. Taxes aren't about feeling fair. They're about paying for stuff. And, of course, a progressive tax system IS fair. Especially when you consider all of the other taxes that everyone, irrespective of income, pays.

    This argument sounds, to me, like the kid with 20 cookies who has to give 4 to his younger sister complaining about the butler's kid who gets to keep 1.

    Raising the federal income tax on the poorest among us would net no real amount of revenue, and push those who are already living paycheck to paycheck that must closer to starvation. But it's okay so long as you feel like things are a little more fair, right?
    I don't care if you've said it for the umpteenth zillion times. This thread is about Federal income tax. Everyone pays the other taxes. That's supposed to be news?? You are comfortable with 47% of earners not paying Federal income tax. I'm not. Everyone should bear some financial responsibility for paying income tax. It's that simple. And know what? It used to be that way until politicians started buying our votes.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't care if you've said it for the umpteenth zillion times. This thread is about Federal income tax. Everyone pays the other taxes. That's supposed to be news?? You are comfortable with 47% of earners not paying Federal income tax. I'm not. Everyone should bear some financial responsibility for paying income tax. It's that simple. And know what? It used to be that way until politicians started buying our votes.
    Minor point: The thread is about any taxes that might qualify. Could mean gasoline taxes if the related subject is infrastructure, as one example. Could also mean local, state, or federal, as applicable. But yeah, federal income taxes would be the most applicable.

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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And I am explaining, for the umpteenth time, that limiting the discussion to federal income tax is useless and misleading. And the idea that somehow it's moral to make sure you take a little from everyone, even if it's just a penny... That's silly. Taxes aren't about feeling fair. They're about paying for stuff. And, of course, a progressive tax system IS fair. Especially when you consider all of the other taxes that everyone, irrespective of income, pays.

    This argument sounds, to me, like the kid with 20 cookies who has to give 4 to his younger sister complaining about the butler's kid who gets to keep 1.

    Raising the federal income tax on the poorest among us would net no real amount of revenue, and push those who are already living paycheck to paycheck that must closer to starvation. But it's okay so long as you feel like things are a little more fair, right?
    I am continually astounded by the few on the extreme right that think our forefathers were socialists, as they supported far more progressive tax rates than anything proposed by the Democrats today. The very same forefathers that defeated Nazi Germany and built the strongest middle class in history, the extreme right of today considers socialists.

    To me this shows the extreme right perspective has moved closer to fascism than in our past.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Actually, what I really said is that the 47% who aren't paying taxes aren't choosing not to. They can't. They would if they could. But they have so little that they need every penny of that to live at a standard we would consider the minimum acceptable. My point is that no one is being sneaky or malicious. People are working hard, and getting paid squat for it. While those who do not work hard are getting paid millions for helping no one but themselves.

    Let me repeat this, because it bears repeating. Those who, by virtue of having such a low income that they do not qualify for the federal income tax, are not getting away with anything. They have so little that we don't take from them. You want them to pay taxes? Great. They want to pay taxes, too. Just pay them a decent wage, and allocate that tax money into places where it will improve their lot, so they will have income to tax. That's all there is to it.

    The only ones who can pay taxes but don't are the ultra-rich. Everyone else is just broke.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am continually astounded by the few on the extreme right that think our forefathers were socialists, as they supported far more progressive tax rates than anything proposed by the Democrats today. The very same forefathers that defeated Nazi Germany and built the strongest middle class in history, the extreme right of today considers socialists.

    To me this shows the extreme right perspective has moved closer to fascism than in our past.
    most of our REAL forefathers were not socialists. FDR was

    and I love how you try to cyberfellate FDR by calling him our "forefather" while ignoring the great men who penned the constitution.

    you have no clue what fascism is-FDR was far closer to fascist (ask the Japanese Americans) than the "extreme right" which basically means anyone who opposes Obama care or tax hikes on those who already pay too much of the taxes



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ...and I love how you try to cyberfellate FDR by calling him our "forefather" while ignoring the great men who penned the constitution...
    is this necessary?

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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Actually, what I really said is that the 47% who aren't paying taxes aren't choosing not to. They can't. They would if they could. But they have so little that they need every penny of that to live at a standard we would consider the minimum acceptable.

    Let me repeat this, because it bears repeating. Those who, by virtue of having such a low income that they do not qualify for the federal income tax, are not getting away with anything. They have so little that we don't take from them. You want them to pay taxes? Great. They want to pay taxes, too. Just pay them a decent wage, and allocate that tax money into places where it will improve their lot, so they will have income to tax. That's all there is to it.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    is this necessary?
    ask the FDR worshipper. some might ask the same thing about your postings on this board



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ...some might ask the same thing about your postings on this board
    what does this have to do with the OP?

    and yes, I am willing to pay more in taxes, if we add new tax-rates for millionaires.

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