View Poll Results: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

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  • Yes, across the board.

    14 12.17%
  • Yes, for infrastructure.

    33 28.70%
  • Yes, for education. (K-12)

    21 18.26%
  • Yes, for job creation.

    19 16.52%
  • Yes, for social programs.

    15 13.04%
  • Yes, for medical care.

    26 22.61%
  • Yes, for the environment.

    19 16.52%
  • Yes, but... not for some particular programs (please elaborate).

    10 8.70%
  • No. None. Not for anything at all.

    63 54.78%
  • Undecided. Convince me either way.

    1 0.87%
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I never said these people were cheating the system and mooching. The system's broken. Everyone who lives in the United States of America and earns money should pay income tax on their earnings just like I do. I don't care if it's 1%, a half percent -- something. If people don't have a dog in the fight, what the hell do they care how much Congress spends?? As for people paying plenty of other taxes, of course, that's true. But we're talking about income tax here.
    And I am explaining, for the umpteenth time, that limiting the discussion to federal income tax is useless and misleading. And the idea that somehow it's moral to make sure you take a little from everyone, even if it's just a penny... That's silly. Taxes aren't about feeling fair. They're about paying for stuff. And, of course, a progressive tax system IS fair. Especially when you consider all of the other taxes that everyone, irrespective of income, pays.

    This argument sounds, to me, like the kid with 20 cookies who has to give 4 to his younger sister complaining about the butler's kid who gets to keep 1.

    Raising the federal income tax on the poorest among us would net no real amount of revenue, and push those who are already living paycheck to paycheck that must closer to starvation. But it's okay so long as you feel like things are a little more fair, right?
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    I see the promoters of social justice are on the prowl again, trying to justify their being thieves. Liberals and socialists are of one mind. It's proven right here.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yes. 71% of Americans make 50000 a year or less. 35% make 25000 or less. A generation ago, this income level was sufficient for middle class living. The cost of living keeps going up and up, and wages do not.
    a complete failure of proof



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm sure your campaign plank there will see you in good stead next November.

    You are the poster child for voting against the GOP!!!! Please keep it up, and try to be just a little more vitriolic in your disdain for the middle class.
    I understand your need to subject anything that does not pander to the lowest common denominator to the review of the rabble. Not being a politician I can tell the truth rather than kiss up to the mindless minions of the left



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is exactly what two dozen patriotic billionaires demanded of the Congressional deficit committee today.
    LOL-yeah patriotism is what motivates them? as RO would say


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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    On Tuesday night, I attended the council meeting of my local township government. The burning issue is what to do with Fire Department. Some want to privatize while others want to place on the ballot a proposal to raise taxes to pay for the continuation of the current fire department.

    During the public comments section, I spoke and said point blank PLEASE RAISE MY TAXES. Out of the crowd of over 300 people there, many more came to the mic and said the same thing. The council was a bit taken aback and one even said that in all their years on that board this was something rather new.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And I am explaining, for the umpteenth time, that limiting the discussion to federal income tax is useless and misleading. And the idea that somehow it's moral to make sure you take a little from everyone, even if it's just a penny... That's silly. Taxes aren't about feeling fair. They're about paying for stuff. And, of course, a progressive tax system IS fair. Especially when you consider all of the other taxes that everyone, irrespective of income, pays.

    This argument sounds, to me, like the kid with 20 cookies who has to give 4 to his younger sister complaining about the butler's kid who gets to keep 1.

    Raising the federal income tax on the poorest among us would net no real amount of revenue, and push those who are already living paycheck to paycheck that must closer to starvation. But it's okay so long as you feel like things are a little more fair, right?
    first of all your tripe reeks of internal contradictions. secondly your concept of fair is based on the marxist from each according to their ability. thirdly-like every other socialist on this forum-you patently ignore the fact that those who don't pay income taxes tend to be less concerned about jacking up the rates on others than those who actually have to pay it



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    first of all your tripe reeks of internal contradictions. secondly your concept of fair is based on the marxist from each according to their ability. thirdly-like every other socialist on this forum-you patently ignore the fact that those who don't pay income taxes tend to be less concerned about jacking up the rates on others than those who actually have to pay it
    Specifically, what internal contradictions are in the post of Paschendale when he says

    And I am explaining, for the umpteenth time, that limiting the discussion to federal income tax is useless and misleading. And the idea that somehow it's moral to make sure you take a little from everyone, even if it's just a penny... That's silly. Taxes aren't about feeling fair. They're about paying for stuff. And, of course, a progressive tax system IS fair. Especially when you consider all of the other taxes that everyone, irrespective of income, pays.

    This argument sounds, to me, like the kid with 20 cookies who has to give 4 to his younger sister complaining about the butler's kid who gets to keep 1.

    Raising the federal income tax on the poorest among us would net no real amount of revenue, and push those who are already living paycheck to paycheck that must closer to starvation. But it's okay so long as you feel like things are a little more fair, right?
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Specifically, what internal contradictions are in the post of Paschendale when he says
    first he whines that taxes are not supposed to be fair but for paying for stuff and then he claims a progressive tax rate is fair



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    first he whines that taxes are not supposed to be fair but for paying for stuff and then he claims a progressive tax rate is fair
    Rather he says that taxes are "not about feeling fair". There is a difference and a distinction. Why is that an internal contradiction?
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