View Poll Results: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

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  • Yes, across the board.

    14 12.17%
  • Yes, for infrastructure.

    33 28.70%
  • Yes, for education. (K-12)

    21 18.26%
  • Yes, for job creation.

    19 16.52%
  • Yes, for social programs.

    15 13.04%
  • Yes, for medical care.

    26 22.61%
  • Yes, for the environment.

    19 16.52%
  • Yes, but... not for some particular programs (please elaborate).

    10 8.70%
  • No. None. Not for anything at all.

    63 54.78%
  • Undecided. Convince me either way.

    1 0.87%
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess that is the best you can do?
    I thought he made a pretty valid point.

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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    ok, why don't you tell us what the Founding Fathers meant when they said "all men are created equal"?[/QUOTE

    A little history lesson here.
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    The "all men are created equal" phrase appears only in the Declaration of Independence. The writers of the Constitution had a slightly different opinion. If you are talking about the census, the Constitution proved for apportionment based on the formula that Whites, including those bound for a period of years, were counted as a whole, Negroes as 3/5 a person
    this is incorrect. Slaves populaces were only apportioned 3/5ths representation - no human being was ever counted as 3/5ths a person. In addition, freed blacks were counted fully for representation.

    If you are asking about the vote, Only white males and freedman had that privilege. Indians, Negroes, and women not so much.
    Unless of course, they lived in Delaware (1776), Maryland (1776), New Hampshire (1784), New York (1777), Pennsylvania (1776), or Massachusetts (1780), those being the states and the respective dates that they extended voting rights to blacks.

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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    I agree with Thunder. I am willing to pay more taxes (but don't want mine going to war). I almost wish each person could have a personal multiple choice on how much of their taxes goes to fund what in the government. The flip side of that is people who do not understand things that are a must, like the EPA and food inspection. Children could starve, because I can see a huge amount of people on the right who would want welfare totally elimated.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by rosie1 View Post
    I agree with Thunder. I am willing to pay more taxes (but don't want mine going to war). I almost wish each person could have a personal multiple choice on how much of their taxes goes to fund what in the government. The flip side of that is people who do not understand things that are a must, like the EPA and food inspection. Children could starve, because I can see a huge amount of people on the right who would want welfare totally elimated.
    thank you. its a valid position.

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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ok, why don't you tell us what the Founding Fathers meant when they said "all men are created equal"?
    That means that everyone has the same oppurtunity to fail, or succeed, based on each individual's merits. Basically, the government wasn't going to make the decision of who failed, or succeeded.

    Ya see, back in the old country, everything was broken down into class and the government made those decisions. It's just common sense and a little historical knowledge.

    Giving someone money, doesn't make him equal.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    What is dishonest about your statement is that it is true for everyone and far more true for most people compared to me (never used public schools, never used public resources such as an emergency room without paying for it etc) and yet you claim I somehow should pay far more for this than anyone else
    Over 60% of the global variance in personal income is due to where you are born, and presumably some of that remaining 40% is due to other causes outside your control. So yes, you should pay far more than anyone else because that's the price you pay for living in a society that allows you to succeed. If you don't like it, you can always start a career in Somalia where the government won't interfere with you at all.

    and your braying that my property is protected more is beyond moronic. having been a prosecutor I know damn well that it is poor areas that most crimes are perpetrated in. People like me have strong locks, private alarms or security, and in my case, substantial ability to kill and defend against criminals. we have dogs, both my wife and son are martial artists and are both in the top five percent nationally in terms of shooting skill. our area is not one where there is much crime at all
    There are other ways in which your property is at risk besides someone physically breaking into your house and taking your television. A guy who invested $500,000 in a financial agreement has a lot more riding on making sure his contract is enforced, than a guy who invested $50 in an agreement. So yes, you absolutely benefit more from the guys with big guns, because you have more to lose.

    that is where the welfare socialist nonsense falls on its ass.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even the poor folks?
    If they have anything to give. Which they don't. But if we support them with social programs, and help them escape poverty, they will.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Over 60% of the global variance in personal income is due to where you are born, and presumably some of that remaining 40% is due to other causes outside your control. So yes, you should pay far more than anyone else because that's the price you pay for living in a society that allows you to succeed. If you don't like it, you can always start a career in Somalia where the government won't interfere with you at all.



    There are other ways in which your property is at risk besides someone physically breaking into your house and taking your television. A guy who invested $500,000 in a financial agreement has a lot more riding on making sure his contract is enforced, than a guy who invested $50 in an agreement. So yes, you absolutely benefit more from the guys with big guns, because you have more to lose.



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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Interesting! Obscured by the way this question (poll) is presented is how overwhelmingly DP posters (who, on the whole, are better educated than the average Joe) support higher taxes (about 7 to 1 or 80 ok with higher taxes and 12 opposed in all circumstances) at this writing. I hope Turtle Dude doesn't toss and turn too much this evening. He needs a good nights sleep.
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    Re: Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Interesting! Obscured by the way this question (poll) is presented is how overwhelmingly DP posters support higher taxes (about 4 to 1 or 80 for and 20 against) at this writing. I hope Turtle Dude doesn't toss and turn too much this evening. He needs a good nights sleep.
    You ought to spend more time worrying about your issues and less time worrying about me. I am a winner and I am successful. I sleep plenty well. I am not the one obsessing over taking someone else's wealth or pissing and moaning about others being rich



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