View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

    13 76.47%
  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

    1 5.88%
  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    being a grand-kid of a former poor person does not mean they can relate to the bottom 20%, my point was if you wanted to force the poor from the vote and make the rich judge, jury and executioner then they should at least get a fair trial.

    p.s Many would argue convincingly that increased tases on the top bracket would help the bottom 20% who are still waiting for that infamous trickle down...
    executioner?

    is this an attempt to win the oscar in a leading drama queen role?



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Today is just rich with great planks for the extreme right wing platform. So far today we've got "Gaddafi should still be in power," and now "the rich get more votes."

    Any other winners you want to add today? Eating puppies and raping grandmas?

    how is that extreme right? the founders didn't want those who had no skin in the game voting away the wealth of those who did



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    well since many in the bottom 20% are out of work and struggling it would be a pretty pointless excercise.
    The unemployment rate of the US 9.1%,where do you get 20%?

    Unemployment in the U.S. - Google Public Data Explorer
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    executioner?

    is this an attempt to win the oscar in a leading drama queen role?
    talking more about the fact you wanted to excute them as citizens by taking the vote away, not texas style!

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The unemployment rate of the US 9.1%,where do you get 20%?

    Unemployment in the U.S. - Google Public Data Explorer
    well I said many of the 20% are unemployed not all....Thanks for the neat link though

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how is that extreme right? the founders didn't want those who had no skin in the game voting away the wealth of those who did
    The Founders wrote a document for the world of 1787 when we had an isolated backwater nation of 4 million farmers and small merchants on a part of the Eastern seaboard. Those days are long gone. And so are the Founders ideas of skin in the game.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Founders wrote a document for the world of 1787 when we had an isolated backwater nation of 4 million farmers and small merchants on a part of the Eastern seaboard. Those days are long gone. And so are the Founders ideas of skin in the game.
    Fantastic post

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Fantastic post
    Why thank you Higgins. I am humbled by your praise.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Founders wrote a document for the world of 1787 when we had an isolated backwater nation of 4 million farmers and small merchants on a part of the Eastern seaboard. Those days are long gone. And so are the Founders ideas of skin in the game.
    So by your logic so are the days of free speech, right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures without a warrant, the right to peacefully assemble and other rights are only for the world of 1787?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No one wants to pay more than they have to.A lot of dishonest people are for tax increases that they themselves would not be paying for.
    Which is why I do not favor "sin taxes".


    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Punishment for a crime is not the same thing and legal. Your reply is nothing more than a fallacy as you know what I meant.
    Yes, I knew exactly what you meant, and I pointed out the fatal flaw in your argument resulting from your inconsistency. I am curious to know exactly which "fallacy" you feel I am guilty of.

    Oh, and something being legal does not automatically mean it is right or consistent. It just means it is legal.

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