View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

    13 76.47%
  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

    1 5.88%
  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

    1 5.88%
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Either/or.
    I'm open to suggestions.

    The point is that the value of voting needs to be realized through some sort of personal sacrifice.
    It's pretty well known that most people who get something for free, on a consistent basis, value it very little.

    A classic economic argument.
    I totally agree with the part in red, but there are some things that I think people should have the right to, and that right also includes the right to not take it seriously. Fortunately, most people who truly do not take it seriously, also would not bother to vote at all.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    edited for accuracy.
    People get tired of your childish changing of what they said

    your posts are as far from accuracy as one can imagine. many of the rich are dems. especially those who are rich because of the government as well as those who despise the religious right



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I totally agree with the part in red, but there are some things that I think people should have the right to, and that right also includes the right to not take it seriously. Fortunately, most people who truly do not take it seriously, also would not bother to vote at all.
    I agree that does flesh out some what, in overall voter turn out.
    On the other hand, I still think that it needs to be earned, to hopefully spur some sort of greater thinking, of what it costs to be a productive member of society.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    People get tired of your childish changing of what they said...
    what does this have to do with the OP?

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    problem with that is nothing would ever get done.
    **** would still get done.The government would have to have the consent of those who would be footing the bill before increasing taxes.

    Why would a smoker want to pay more for a packet of fags?
    No one wants to pay more than they have to.A lot of dishonest people are for tax increases that they themselves would not be paying for.


    If you give people the choice 8 times out of 10 they will choose to pay less.
    And that is how it should be. You would not want someone going an expensive restaurant and then making you pay the bill against your will.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Actually, no. According to how most define it in this context, it's still "slavery" even when it is punishment for a crime, as it is forcing somebody to do something they don't want to do. Plus, it wouldn't be "slavery" for voting as one can always choose not to vote.

    Disclaimer: I do NOT buy into the whole "slavery" rhetoric, but if people are going to use it, at least be consistent.
    Punishment for a crime is not the same thing and legal. Your reply is nothing more than a fallacy as you know what I meant.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    **** would still get done.The government would have to have the consent of those who would be footing the bill before increasing taxes....
    the poor still pay sales tax.

    that means, EVERONE in America pays taxes, and should have the right to vote.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the poor still pay sales tax.

    that means, EVERONE in America pays taxes, and should have the right to vote.
    only on the taxes that they pay

    why should someone who is in the bottom bracket of the income tax be able to vote up the rates for those on the top?



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    [QUOTE=jamesrage;1059915271

    And that is how it should be. You would not want someone going an expensive restaurant and then making you pay the bill against your will.[/QUOTE]


    But that is not what we are discussing here, we pay taxes to improve the country not to front someone elses bill.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    only on the taxes that they pay

    why should someone who is in the bottom bracket of the income tax be able to vote up the rates for those on the top?
    err.....cause they might win the lottery tomorrow and suddenly become part of the 1%?

    wanting to strip away the right to vote from people simply due to their income, is totally unAmerican and true class-warfare.

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