View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

    13 76.47%
  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

    1 5.88%
  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

    1 5.88%
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I want to avoid the whole poor don't pay taxes stuff.
    I think it's more equitable to require community service for everyone who wants to, vote or be elected to public office.
    What do you mean by community service? Sweeping streets? Working in a food kitchen? Serving in the military? Would there be a minimum number of hours to qualify or does it have to be a lifelong contribution?

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This statement contradicts itself. Income tax is only a portion of government funding.
    True, but there are lots of people who effectively pay nothing whatsoever and receive services simply for waking up in the morning. I don't think those people deserve to be in a position to vote themselves more freebies when they have no stake in the process.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    What do you mean by community service? Sweeping streets? Working in a food kitchen? Serving in the military? Would there be a minimum number of hours to qualify or does it have to be a lifelong contribution?
    Either/or.
    I'm open to suggestions.

    The point is that the value of voting needs to be realized through some sort of personal sacrifice.
    It's pretty well known that most people who get something for free, on a consistent basis, value it very little.

    A classic economic argument.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ...the GOP feed the rich in the hope of making them pawns of the Rep. party
    edited for accuracy.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what about people who are disabled due to no fault of their own? should they still lose the right to vote?

    what about folks who have been unemployed for only 6 months, should they also lose the right to vote?

    what are the ground-rules for your bigotry & hatred against the poor?
    Your point would be better made without the third point. It's not necessarily "bigotry & hatred".

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think every American citizen should be allowed to vote. That said I think any tax increases should be voted on only by those who would be paying the tax increases. For example they want an extra tax on cigarettes then only smokers should be allowed to vote on whether or not to vote for those tax increases. Because its too damn easy to want tax increases when you are not the person paying for them and its too damn easy to spend other people's money.
    problem with that is nothing would ever get done. Why would a smoker want to pay more for a packet of fags? If you give people the choice 8 times out of 10 they will choose to pay less.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Your point would be better made without the third point. It's not necessarily "bigotry & hatred".
    oh, its 100% bigotry & hatred of the poor in this country. 100%.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think every American citizen should be allowed to vote. That said I think any tax increases should be voted on only by those who would be paying the tax increases. For example they want an extra tax on cigarettes then only smokers should be allowed to vote on whether or not to vote for those tax increases. Because its too damn easy to want tax increases when you are not the person paying for them and its too damn easy to spend other people's money.
    Interesting.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in many areas that were once black dominated, hispanics have become the largest ethnic group. and due to the political spoils system, the dems still give the spoils to blacks which is causing resentment in the hispanic community. And the hispanic community is far more diverse than the black community-some such as the Cubans, tend to be very hard working and very ambitious and tend not to buy into the Poor poor victimized me crap that the dems feed minorities in the hope of making them pawns of the dem party
    If folks like you and ALEC and CATO and the other components of the right wing truly believe that you sure are going in the opposite direction by attempting to lay a foundation to strip poor people of the right to vote.

    I care absolutely NOTHING for what the far right professes to believe through their words. I put total value in their actions. And their actions are to lay groundwork and a foundation to strip the poor of their voting rights. The responses of the right here are evidence of that.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Community service (for other than a crime) is nothing but indentured servitude or slavery with a nice name.
    Actually, no. According to how most define it in this context, it's still "slavery" even when it is punishment for a crime, as it is forcing somebody to do something they don't want to do. Plus, it wouldn't be "slavery" for voting as one can always choose not to vote.

    Disclaimer: I do NOT buy into the whole "slavery" rhetoric, but if people are going to use it, at least be consistent.

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