View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

    13 76.47%
  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

    1 5.88%
  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

    1 5.88%
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    all Americans pay for govt.

    sales taxes pay for govt.

    what you are suggesting is full-on class-warfare, one that the rich would lose.
    Pretty much all sales tax is local. So they only vote in local elections? I know, let's have a national sales tax. That being said, we wouldn't want a system where we exclude the poor from voting however tempting that may be. Government has created a dependent class that will only vote for the side that keeps the money coming. Then there is the other dependent class that vote to keep their money flowing.
    Last edited by jambalaya; 10-31-11 at 12:26 PM.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Pretty much all sales tax is local. So they only vote in local elections? I know, let's have a national sales tax.
    shhhhh, don't confuse them with pesky things like facts.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nope, but it does include the guy who has never worked and just collects a government check. I love how you keep trying to redirect the intention.
    Can you provide a link to these government checks for able bodied males?

    As far as I know if they don't have kids they don't get squat. Here in CA, afaik, they can get General Relief once every couple years, a couple hundred in cash and food stamps. No longterm checks that I am aware of.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Can you provide a link to these government checks for able bodied males?

    As far as I know if they don't have kids they don't get squat. Here in CA, afaik, they can get General Relief once every couple years, a couple hundred in cash and food stamps. No longterm checks that I am aware of.
    they tend to ignore this nasty little fact, able bodied people with no children don't get welfare.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    all Americans pay for govt.

    sales taxes pay for govt.

    what you are suggesting is full-on class-warfare, one that the rich would lose.
    Don't forget that rents are generally calculated to include property taxes, so mkst renters actually are paying the property taxes for their landlords.

    Meaning they actually pay the one tax that qualifies one to vote in the constitution.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they tend to ignore this nasty little fact, able bodied people with no children don't get welfare.
    just as you tend to ignore the fact that able bodied people with no children actually have jobs and thus pay income tax.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Don't forget that rents are generally calculated to include property taxes, so mkst renters actually are paying the property taxes for their landlords.

    Meaning they actually pay the one tax that qualifies one to vote in the constitution.
    this, of course, ignores that most of the people we are talking about tend to live in govt housing and therefore the govt is the landlord, so there again these people are not actually paying taxes.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Don't forget that rents are generally calculated to include property taxes, so mkst renters actually are paying the property taxes for their landlords.

    Meaning they actually pay the one tax that qualifies one to vote in the constitution.
    If you don't directly pay a tax you pay no tax. And once again, propery taxes are local.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    shhhhh, don't confuse them with pesky things like facts.
    Gasoline taxes, utility taxes, and so on... the list is virtually infinite. Yeah, those pesky little facts.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Gasoline taxes, utility taxes, and so on... the list is virtually infinite. Yeah, those pesky little facts.
    errbody noes dat when you live in gubbermint housing you don't be payin no utilities and since you walk errwhere you don't buys no gas neither.
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