View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

    13 76.47%
  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

    1 5.88%
  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

    1 5.88%
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm entirely fine saying the only people who can vote are those who pay income taxes. If you're not going to pay for government, you ought to have no say over it.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm entirely fine saying the only people who can vote are those who pay income taxes. If you're not going to pay for government, you ought to have no say over it.
    all Americans pay for govt.

    sales taxes pay for govt.

    what you are suggesting is full-on class-warfare, one that the rich would lose.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    all Americans pay for govt.

    sales taxes pay for govt.
    sales tax paid with money from a welfare check given to you by the govt doesn't count.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sales tax paid with money from a welfare check given to you by the govt doesn't count.
    what about folks who are lower-class but make too much to be on welfare?

    don't they pay sales-tax?

    its interesting how Conservatives who are supposedly all-about freedom and rights for all, are seeking to strip their fellow Americans of the most fundamental of rights: the right to choose their representatives.

    put it this way: if you can be drafted, you should have the right to vote.

    if the govt. has power over you, you should have power over your government.
    Last edited by Thunder; 10-31-11 at 12:09 PM.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    We don't get direct votes on the vast majority of these issues*, so the presumption reduces the point or concept to a mere talking point, which is nothing less than clouding the discussion. It's kind of like saying, "In our fantasy world, where this doesn't really exist, it should be done this way.". Seriously, what does that add to the discussion?

    Can we apply it to the real world? How does this work when these decisions are made by elected representatives, and not by direct votes on the issues?

    *- Barring some issues on ballot initiatives, but those only happen in some states and never at the federal level.



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    This here and the fact everyone pays taxes in any case.

    The premise of the poll is ridiculous.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what about folks who are lower-class but make too much to be on welfare?

    don't they pay sales-tax?
    sure. now will you agree that those on welfare pay no taxes?
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
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    my point did not need such clarification
    it sure did.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    put it this way: if you can be drafted, you should have the right to vote..
    well, since they did away with the draft...that point is irrelevent. oh...and women were never drafted. I guess they shouldn't have the right to vote.

    put it this way: according to that logic, only MEN between the ages of 18 and 25 should have the right to vote, since those are the only people required to register with selective service.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    This here and the fact everyone pays taxes in any case.

    The premise of the poll is ridiculous.
    Of course it is. And it is NOT about paying taxes. It is about finding any excuse to take people off the voting rolls who probably will not vote the way certain people want them to vote. It is pure political partisanship in its most naked and extreme ugliness.

    It is not suppose to make sense. It is suppose to keep certain people in power winning elections despite the demographics of the nation turning against their party and their parochial interests.

    Never make the mistake this is about taxes.
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Now that would be an interesting poll question: Do people on welfare pay taxes?
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